Arbusers

francesco wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 11, 2023 9:03 pm

fnatic91 wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 09, 2023 5:01 pm

140k/year is for sure a very nice amount.
To consider X profit a good one depends on a lot of factors ; country you operate,how much time do you spend,how many friends do you have etc.

X profit should be good for a limited country ,but not good for a country like UK ,Austria,Colombia.

For example, if you make 20k/month having plenty of italian or spanish bet365 accounts, it makes you a loser.
If you make 4k/month from a limited market like Albania,Macedonia,Faroe Islands, you are great.

try opening a new bet365 italia account now and let's see how long it lasts ahahahaha . I met people who opened a bet365 Italia account 2 weeks ago and at the first live valuebet it was limited to 2 euros. I repeat. the fun in Italy is coming to an end as far as value betting is concerned

What makes you think that i was referring to valubet?
Bet365 is obliged by italian law to pay clear palps and can't adjust the odds after you have staked.You can get reversed odds 6-7 instead of 1.02

a non-chameleonic and pessimistic boy spoke here, and moreover in bad spirits, as he is happy that it could end for everyone, just because it ended from his point of view

fnatic91 wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 11, 2023 9:21 pm

francesco wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 11, 2023 9:03 pm

fnatic91 wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 09, 2023 5:01 pm

140k/year is for sure a very nice amount.
To consider X profit a good one depends on a lot of factors ; country you operate,how much time do you spend,how many friends do you have etc.

X profit should be good for a limited country ,but not good for a country like UK ,Austria,Colombia.

For example, if you make 20k/month having plenty of italian or spanish bet365 accounts, it makes you a loser.
If you make 4k/month from a limited market like Albania,Macedonia,Faroe Islands, you are great.

try opening a new bet365 italia account now and let's see how long it lasts ahahahaha . I met people who opened a bet365 Italia account 2 weeks ago and at the first live valuebet it was limited to 2 euros. I repeat. the fun in Italy is coming to an end as far as value betting is concerned

What makes you think that i was referring to valubet?
Bet365 is obliged by italian law to pay clear palps and can't adjust the odds after you have staked.You can get reversed odds 6-7 instead of 1.02

perhaps you don't know Italian bookmakers. I tell you with experience, if you play an inverted odds, that is, significantly out of line with the market, most of the time you will receive an email telling you that there was an odds error in the match and the match will be refunded. there are many cases that after the match if you win with the odds reversed they block your account for 180 days. there have been many cases where, even if by law they cannot do so, they cancel the bet with the excuse that it was an out-of-market price. I repeat it for the last time, then whoever wants to understand should understand. gold that flows in Italy is running out. now the bookmakers do what they want and aams says nothing

aams says nothing


Unfortunately this is true, I confirm, pay attention in particular to Eurobet

pkpunter wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 12, 2023 9:08 am

aams says nothing


Unfortunately this is true, I confirm, pay attention in particular to Eurobet

Confirm, with proof, if necessary.

francesco wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 12, 2023 8:48 am

perhaps you don't know Italian bookmakers. I tell you with experience, if you play an inverted odds, that is, significantly out of line with the market, most of the time you will receive an email telling you that there was an odds error in the match and the match will be refunded. there are many cases that after the match if you win with the odds reversed they block your account for 180 days. there have been many cases where, even if by law they cannot do so, they cancel the bet with the excuse that it was an out-of-market price. I repeat it for the last time, then whoever wants to understand should understand. gold that flows in Italy is running out. now the bookmakers do what they want and aams says nothing

and I confirm this as well.

Italy was good until covid hit. After covid everything changed for the Italian smart bettor.

I can confirm that too, bookies do those things and worse. They are gangsters. Need to stay invisible to keep making money

Wolfie wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 12, 2023 1:19 pm

Italy was good until covid hit. After covid everything changed for the Italian smart bettor.

Same thing in Czechia. It was good here until covid, now it is terrible.

What is the situation with arbitration in Germany?

pkpunter wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 12, 2023 9:08 am

aams says nothing


Unfortunately this is true, I confirm, pay attention in particular to Eurobet

usually eurobet italia if you profile it well enough it can last you a few months with live betting. after which they block your account for 180 days and you have to go to the post office to withdraw money.
bet365 italia limits almost instantly even with small amounts especially in minor leagues. bet365 italia recently asked for a live selfie video when registering new IDs.
snai recently also limits and suspends your gaming account. In Italy there is sisal left that something can still be done. the rest of the bookmakers limit or suspend accounts within a few months. oh I forgot. goldbet is also not bad but sisal and goldbet have been well aligned with the market for a few months. I always talk about prematch valuebet where I have experience

Wolfie wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 12, 2023 1:19 pm

Italy was good until covid hit. After covid everything changed for the Italian smart bettor.

during the covid lockdown when the championships in Italy were suspended those who did matched betting made huge profits with casino promotions. matched betting seemed reborn. during the epidemic they really gave many exploitable casino bonuses, many exploitable recurring ones and a lot of money was made there. I'm talking about those who live in Italy and I can confirm it. they were golden times when the championships were all suspended

SNAI recently refused to give me the Welcome Bonus. I asked for the reason and they simply said its their right to refuse.

GNMbg wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 12, 2023 9:48 pm

SNAI recently refused to give me the Welcome Bonus. I asked for the reason and they simply said its their right to refuse.

welcome to the new Italian gambling . this is just the beginning. I have been doing matched betting for 4 years and in recent months all the bookmakers have become increasingly smart when it comes to promotions and bonuses that can be exploited. lately they've been doing whatever they want. so it's not worth it anymore. you were also lucky. there are many cases now that when you are about to do a rollover they suspend your bonus for no reason

mrJustice wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 12, 2023 3:13 pm

Wolfie wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 12, 2023 1:19 pm

Italy was good until covid hit. After covid everything changed for the Italian smart bettor.

Same thing in Czechia. It was good here until covid, now it is terrible.

Most of normal gamblers almost stopped betting during covid due to lack of events. Most of smart gamblers continued to bet large volumes. This made it very easy to spot the smart gamblers. Second hand bookmakers become aware of how much smart betting impacts their business, since the big ones were already aware.