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kustef
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Dont let run bot all day .. select time frames
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Thank you I will try.
It actually ran from 10 to 6 both of the days, Do I need to run for 2 hours/day or something?
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Horse racing may be the worst choice of a sport for a bot.
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Horse racing may be the worst choice of a sport for a bot.
So they are closing accounts as soon as they see horse racing value bets? Thats very aggressive  ;D I had no more than 70 bets on a limited account before it got closed.
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Horse racing may be the worst choice of a sport for a bot.

Exactly. Horse races is their weak point and their inly way to defend is by closing the account.
Avoid horse races.
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Horse racing may be the worst choice of a sport for a bot.

Exactly. Horse races is their weak point and their inly way to defend is by closing the account.
Avoid horse races.
Thank you boss for giving us your opinion.
Is it the same for greyhound races?
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TBH I never tried greyhound races, but I can only assume that a smaller market would lead to faster limits.
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Why not try soccer. There was, maybe still is in operation, a bot operated from Vienna which used limited accounts to milk exactly B365 like forever. The limits meant limited, still worths you while, profit, but it kept coming, using x-casino words, like a rent month in, month out. I’m not using it but maybe you can find something similar at Smartbet.io.?
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I believe x-casino described the opportunities in the best way. Do not search for the magic potion in a place that you will never find it. Just select the tipsters with a proved and excellent record, as reported by others, and collect the rent each month.
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Maybe a well calibrated value betting could be compared to a rent. A tipster is always a risky choice. That’s why it was always better to arb or trade than follow tipsters, nowaday with arbing and trading in decline it would be value betting I guess.

Tipsters may have excellent records for as long as the record show, usually 6 months. How did they do before? Is it a streak of good look now? If they fail, they can abandon their nick and start all over again with a new one and a clean sheet. In my whole life I’ve seen just few tipsters that kept positive record for a long time (years) and one I can think of who was always right.

The main difference between following a tipster and value betting is highlighted when you enter the negative territory, which will always happen. With vb you know that it’s natural and all you have to do is keep going to get back to profit. With tipster you have to take a bet (not an arb!): is it an anomaly in otherwise perfectly sound and healthy selection process, or - is it the beginning of a deadly downfall of this tipster? Since whatever they write you essentially don’t know anything about the selection process (unlike with well calibrated vb, especially after sufficient nb of bets), all you can do is bet that they will recover one more time. But at certain point the majority of them won’t and they will crash. And you with them. The simplest way of assecuration is, of course, to spread the risk, and invest in many tipsters. But it’s still a shaky investment compared to valuebetting.
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Maybe a well calibrated value betting could be compared to a rent. A tipster is always a risky choice. That’s why it was always better to arb or trade than follow tipsters, nowaday with arbing and trading in decline it would be value betting I guess.

Tipsters may have excellent records for as long as the record show, usually 6 months. How did they do before? Is it a streak of good look now? If they fail, they can abandon their nick and start all over again with a new one and a clean sheet. In my whole life I’ve seen just few tipsters that kept positive record for a long time (years) and one I can think of who was always right.

The main difference between following a tipster and value betting is highlighted when you enter the negative territory, which will always happen. With vb you know that it’s natural and all you have to do is keep going to get back to profit. With tipster you have to take a bet (not an arb!): is it an anomaly in otherwise perfectly sound and healthy selection process, or - is it the beginning of a deadly downfall of this tipster? Since whatever they write you essentially don’t know anything about the selection process (unlike with well calibrated vb, especially after sufficient nb of bets), all you can do is bet that they will recover one more time. But at certain point the majority of them won’t and they will crash. And you with them. The simplest way of assecuration is, of course, to spread the risk, and invest in many tipsters. But it’s still a shaky investment compared to valuebetting.

I think the tipsters most of users here are following are valuebetting. Just my opinion i don't know for sure.
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Obviously this tipsters are value betting.
Judging from the stats that I have at my disposal, there are at least 3, maybe 5 long-term winners. Some of our members are using these tipsters for a really long time and they have absolutely no reason to continue betting if they are losing money.
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Obviously this tipsters are value betting.
Judging from the stats that I have at my disposal, there are at least 3, maybe 5 long-term winners. Some of our members are using these tipsters for a really long time and they have absolutely no reason to continue betting if they are losing money.

Yes, every successful tipster picks value. It’s obvious, otherwise they wouldn’t be in profit. But at the core, most of them are not value bettors. They would survive every downfall if they were. They base their selections on what they think their unique knowledge of a game is, whatever their expert’s angle. This plus assessing the odds and looking for value. I remember thinking many years ago: why none of them won’t start picking selections based purely on value, they’d be a guaranteed long term winners. But instead they kept disappearing after their track record took a nosedive.

As for Smartbet.io, you obviously know more than I do. If those tipsters are different and are in fact valuebettors rather than tipsters (there is a reason why those terms are not synonyms), than we are in agreement and they shouldn’t be shy to advertise it. For educated bettors it may be their selling point as opposite to “old school” tipsters.

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I am fundamentally against tipsters. The old-timers might remember the competitions that we had and the projects that we held with the winners of these competitions. It was very difficult for all these well paid people to stay near 0%.
We have to define what value is. Somehow I believe that some tipsters are not thinking in mathematical terms when it comes to value. I m not saying this is correct or wrong, I m just mentioning it.
If someone is a long-term winner, then who cares how he defines value. It might be even luck but some people are ready to invest, or exploit someone's luck.
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TBH I never tried greyhound races, but I can only assume that a smaller market would lead to faster limits.

I can confirm this is totally true since i had an account closed in less than a day action on Grayhounds. Avoid GH and Horses and your account will last longer
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