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If the idea of the software or the theme is the value of betting, then I am very dissatisfied, many features can not be achieved!
You should set some reverse selection, such as victory 70% -80%, what league, you can let members automatically choose.
Or set other easy to set options.
A lot of the country, the league a lot, do let us one by one test?
Odds4Stats (O4S) new value betting service
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You have only 2 days till the end of the unique opportunity to subscribe 1 and get 2 of our packages on odds4stats.com. If you subscribe today or tomorrow you will get 60 days subscription instead of 30 days.
Let's go, the doors are closing on 31st of March 12 PM CET!
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Thank you for your comment.
Can you please explain what you would like to see exactly?
Other filter options for leagues or countries?
We have a "Taste" package, with that, users can test the Value Miner.
Please don't hesitate to share your ideas with us.
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Re: Odds4Stats (O4S) new value betting service
Hello,mate wrote: Buy the odds4stats for the first time today
If the idea of the software or the theme is the value of betting, then I am very dissatisfied, many features can not be achieved!
You should set some reverse selection, such as victory 70% -80%, what league, you can let members automatically choose.
Or set other easy to set options.
A lot of the country, the league a lot, do let us one by one test?
Thank you for your comment.
Can you please explain what you would like to see exactly?
Other filter options for leagues or countries?
We have a "Taste" package, with that, users can test the Value Miner.
Please don't hesitate to share your ideas with us.
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Re: Odds4Stats (O4S) new value betting service
It just my opinion, but first trial should be 1-2 weeks or even few days like most alert services. Lots of arbers wont risk 2 month subscription, even if they are not enable to see inside platform
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We do have trial, we call it "Taste" package, feel free to check.
https://odds4stats.com/#packages_and_pricing
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Re: Odds4Stats (O4S) new value betting service
Hello,maletaja wrote: It just my opinion, but first trial should be 1-2 weeks or even few days like most alert services. Lots of arbers wont risk 2 month subscription, even if they are not enable to see inside platform
We do have trial, we call it "Taste" package, feel free to check.
https://odds4stats.com/#packages_and_pricing
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Re: Odds4Stats (O4S) new value betting service
Let's face it, this is not a free meal, it is up to the user to make it work. Some people will make much, some people will make less, some will even lose.
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When change season it remove selected team. Can you fix it?O4S wrote:Hello,mate wrote: Buy the odds4stats for the first time today
If the idea of the software or the theme is the value of betting, then I am very dissatisfied, many features can not be achieved!
You should set some reverse selection, such as victory 70% -80%, what league, you can let members automatically choose.
Or set other easy to set options.
A lot of the country, the league a lot, do let us one by one test?
Thank you for your comment.
Can you please explain what you would like to see exactly?
Other filter options for leagues or countries?
We have a "Taste" package, with that, users can test the Value Miner.
Please don't hesitate to share your ideas with us.
ODDS4STATS
- maletaja
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I have to admit i have tried to find fundamental leaks, but i have failed. Problem is, Betradar are quite accurate. They know that premier leagues mean over/under is 2.5, Latin America leagues 3.5 and so on. Addition they are using 5-10% juice which defends them quite well. They dont have to be accurate even under/over score
Another thing is teams H2H. Lets take Liverpool vs Manchester United. What gives us 5 year statistic history?Teams are totally diffrent. We can use in my opinion 1 season, mayby 2, but we cant make any conclusion based on deep statistic
In my view its good to know premier league tend to goal 2.5 goals and Italy defensive teams tend to score 2.0 goals. But after all we must know specific information which has value. For example Andorra vs Germany. Market assumes Germany crushes Andorra 10-0. But mayby there are changes in defensive side which gives us interesting opportunities
Another thing is teams H2H. Lets take Liverpool vs Manchester United. What gives us 5 year statistic history?Teams are totally diffrent. We can use in my opinion 1 season, mayby 2, but we cant make any conclusion based on deep statistic
In my view its good to know premier league tend to goal 2.5 goals and Italy defensive teams tend to score 2.0 goals. But after all we must know specific information which has value. For example Andorra vs Germany. Market assumes Germany crushes Andorra 10-0. But mayby there are changes in defensive side which gives us interesting opportunities
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I haven't tried the service myself, but I've already drawn my conclusions after seeing the demos. As others have said, this is a database of statistical data which has little relevance to a specific future fixture. It's rare enough that the entire betting community (bookies and betfair traders) are 10-15% wrong about a single match, but for this to happen consistently for several years in a particular league is even more unlikely, I think. Where else would value come from? Also, because there is a very limited number of matches in a league each year, a user must expand the sample to entire leagues for several years to have a significant sample size, but this is "over-generalizing".
Still, it's an impressive database, and congratulations for that, but for me, the concept of using it for future bets is flawed.
Re: Odds4Stats (O4S) new value betting service
I guess mate wanted to say that there should be filters like the following one: "show me all leagues/teams which generate at least x% of profit during y years". This way, if someone is looking for a league or team which has had a return of e.g. at least 25%, then the user doesn't have to manually go through every possible combination one by one by one by one... So a sort of reverse filter. Saves a lot of time.O4S wrote:Hello,mate wrote: Buy the odds4stats for the first time today
If the idea of the software or the theme is the value of betting, then I am very dissatisfied, many features can not be achieved!
You should set some reverse selection, such as victory 70% -80%, what league, you can let members automatically choose.
Or set other easy to set options.
A lot of the country, the league a lot, do let us one by one test?
Thank you for your comment.
Can you please explain what you would like to see exactly?
Other filter options for leagues or countries?
We have a "Taste" package, with that, users can test the Value Miner.
Please don't hesitate to share your ideas with us.
ODDS4STATS
I haven't tried the service myself, but I've already drawn my conclusions after seeing the demos. As others have said, this is a database of statistical data which has little relevance to a specific future fixture. It's rare enough that the entire betting community (bookies and betfair traders) are 10-15% wrong about a single match, but for this to happen consistently for several years in a particular league is even more unlikely, I think. Where else would value come from? Also, because there is a very limited number of matches in a league each year, a user must expand the sample to entire leagues for several years to have a significant sample size, but this is "over-generalizing".
Still, it's an impressive database, and congratulations for that, but for me, the concept of using it for future bets is flawed.
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Thanks for the comment, we will fix that.
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Re: Odds4Stats (O4S) new value betting service
Hello,antemartic wrote:When change season it remove selected team. Can you fix it?O4S wrote:Hello,mate wrote: Buy the odds4stats for the first time today
If the idea of the software or the theme is the value of betting, then I am very dissatisfied, many features can not be achieved!
You should set some reverse selection, such as victory 70% -80%, what league, you can let members automatically choose.
Or set other easy to set options.
A lot of the country, the league a lot, do let us one by one test?
Thank you for your comment.
Can you please explain what you would like to see exactly?
Other filter options for leagues or countries?
We have a "Taste" package, with that, users can test the Value Miner.
Please don't hesitate to share your ideas with us.
ODDS4STATS
Thanks for the comment, we will fix that.
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Can you explain in details what you meant when you wrote: "Addition they are using 5-10% juice"
Btw, you can find leagues which show profit if you use 100% of the data.
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Re: Odds4Stats (O4S) new value betting service
Hello,maletaja wrote: I have to admit i have tried to find fundamental leaks, but i have failed. Problem is, Betradar are quite accurate. They know that premier leagues mean over/under is 2.5, Latin America leagues 3.5 and so on. Addition they are using 5-10% juice which defends them quite well. They dont have to be accurate even under/over score
Another thing is teams H2H. Lets take Liverpool vs Manchester United. What gives us 5 year statistic history?Teams are totally diffrent. We can use in my opinion 1 season, mayby 2, but we cant make any conclusion based on deep statistic
In my view its good to know premier league tend to goal 2.5 goals and Italy defensive teams tend to score 2.0 goals. But after all we must know specific information which has value. For example Andorra vs Germany. Market assumes Germany crushes Andorra 10-0. But mayby there are changes in defensive side which gives us interesting opportunities
Can you explain in details what you meant when you wrote: "Addition they are using 5-10% juice"
Btw, you can find leagues which show profit if you use 100% of the data.
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Re: Odds4Stats (O4S) new value betting service
Dear odds4stats! I have to say that your software is now a failed product because you did not take into account the needs of most people! Your software is a (dream)
1. If you want to sell software to make money, then you need to consider most of the needs!
2. If you just sell a few people, it is a pity that your software can not make money!
3. I am not a novice, but I can not find any way to make money - profit
If you are going to value betting, I suggest you fix your idea!
I am here to make a bold estimate that your software sales are bad. You should consider the software developed by Asians, they are real value bets, fully automated bets.
Sorry, before i was looking forward to your software, but now i am very
1. If you want to sell software to make money, then you need to consider most of the needs!
2. If you just sell a few people, it is a pity that your software can not make money!
3. I am not a novice, but I can not find any way to make money - profit
If you are going to value betting, I suggest you fix your idea!
I am here to make a bold estimate that your software sales are bad. You should consider the software developed by Asians, they are real value bets, fully automated bets.
Sorry, before i was looking forward to your software, but now i am very
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Re: Odds4Stats (O4S) new value betting service
Dear mate, hi again,
We are not sure what your real goal is with this kind of responses, but we try to help you again.
Firstly you should know that the couple of minutes you spent on odds4stats.com right before you asked us to refund your subscription is not enough at all to be a pro and to make profit as well. This is the reason why we usually say, being a successful bettor/tipster/gambler, you know that your effort is rewarded.
By the way anyone can try ODDS4STATS for free, no subscription or registration needed. This is the first help we give users before making a decision to sign up or subscribe.
As per your questions:
1. Please, let us know your concrete needs or anyone else's one you know about.
2. We are not sure what you think about, please explain it.
3. You can make money by using Value Miner on the proper way, as lots of other users do. After finding really good payouts and sum profits, use these strategies and make your bets on sports betting sites. The strategies by themselves will not make you any profit but the bets you make. You can win the lottery only if you buy one.
So, ODDS4STATS has nothing to do with concrete bets but gives you excellent strategies to use in sports betting. Certainly you have to create your own strategies by learning. We help you several ways:
- watch our How It Works videos firstly to understand what ODDS4STATS is about, and how to use Value Miner
- follow our Strategy Tips, you will find really good tips and strategies. Test them in Value Miner and also on sports betting websites
- read FAQ if needed
- ask us as you do.
You should know that our team and lots of our users also use Value Miner and ODDS4STATS for making strategies and for using them to make profit with bets. We and they are more than satisfied...
Please write us those Asian software you mentioned, we will check them, but again, ODDS4STATS has nothing to do with automated bets or concrete bets at all. We give you very good strategies if you receive them and if you are willing to learn of them.
Additionally:
We tried to find your other comments in several forum topics to know your needs or your sports betting activity better, but we couldn't find any more comment than these two pieces. Please help us how and where we can know your sports betting activity and your needs better.
Also, please, answer our questions on a constructive way for giving you the proper response.
We are not sure what your real goal is with this kind of responses, but we try to help you again.
Firstly you should know that the couple of minutes you spent on odds4stats.com right before you asked us to refund your subscription is not enough at all to be a pro and to make profit as well. This is the reason why we usually say, being a successful bettor/tipster/gambler, you know that your effort is rewarded.
By the way anyone can try ODDS4STATS for free, no subscription or registration needed. This is the first help we give users before making a decision to sign up or subscribe.
As per your questions:
1. Please, let us know your concrete needs or anyone else's one you know about.
2. We are not sure what you think about, please explain it.
3. You can make money by using Value Miner on the proper way, as lots of other users do. After finding really good payouts and sum profits, use these strategies and make your bets on sports betting sites. The strategies by themselves will not make you any profit but the bets you make. You can win the lottery only if you buy one.
So, ODDS4STATS has nothing to do with concrete bets but gives you excellent strategies to use in sports betting. Certainly you have to create your own strategies by learning. We help you several ways:
- watch our How It Works videos firstly to understand what ODDS4STATS is about, and how to use Value Miner
- follow our Strategy Tips, you will find really good tips and strategies. Test them in Value Miner and also on sports betting websites
- read FAQ if needed
- ask us as you do.
You should know that our team and lots of our users also use Value Miner and ODDS4STATS for making strategies and for using them to make profit with bets. We and they are more than satisfied...
Please write us those Asian software you mentioned, we will check them, but again, ODDS4STATS has nothing to do with automated bets or concrete bets at all. We give you very good strategies if you receive them and if you are willing to learn of them.
Additionally:
We tried to find your other comments in several forum topics to know your needs or your sports betting activity better, but we couldn't find any more comment than these two pieces. Please help us how and where we can know your sports betting activity and your needs better.
Also, please, answer our questions on a constructive way for giving you the proper response.
- mate
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Re: Odds4Stats (O4S) new value betting service
Thank you for your reply, for your attitude, I am very satisfied! Because of your attitude is very good, so I was here to ask your question, I hope you can modify!
The statistics are good, but the statistics do not represent the value of betting! Because everything is changing
For example, your site 's Check our free tip by selecting Germany - Bundesliga - 2016-2017 - Home Outcome in 5 - 10 Odds Range.
OK, i see the data that you are good last season, but it does not mean that 2017-2018 is the same!
I give an example:
12bet vs Marathon Value bet arbs 5%
12bet Odds 2.0 VS Marathon 2.25
Marathon, I'm sure it's worth betting because I'm pretty sure the 12bet odds are the sharpest, long betting is impossible to lose my money so i just need to bet on Marathon. In a day's time, I can get two hundred abrs, 200 * 30, in a month I get 6000 samples, so I know it's worth betting.
Your game statistics are too few samples, and you are not sure whether the 2016 season and the 2017 season are the same as + profit. Very likely 2017 season is lost money, OK, even if the 2018 season you are + profit, do we need to wait the whole season, time is expensive!
As I said, that's just statistical data, the statistics dictate that you need long-term bets and hard to wait for profits.
And your statistics, all the races and odds all need our own creation, which is a big mistake.
OK, even if I create the best strategy tips, we have the confidence to get the value of betting?
NO, too few samples, and the previous high profits do not represent today's profits.
I have the idea to do the real value of the bet, but my English is not good, I can not express my thoughts.
I've seen the best value betting for Asians to develop the software: their way is that you can create your own strategy so that everything simulates bets, real odds, make it fully automated, a week after you turn on the computer, You can see hundreds or even thousands of samples, you pick the most profitable, let it run.
If you do not believe me say - I am sure that your software sales are problematic if you do not work hard to modify it.
Let's take a few months to see the effect, if I am wrong, I will apologize to you at the forum.
The statistics are good, but the statistics do not represent the value of betting! Because everything is changing
For example, your site 's Check our free tip by selecting Germany - Bundesliga - 2016-2017 - Home Outcome in 5 - 10 Odds Range.
OK, i see the data that you are good last season, but it does not mean that 2017-2018 is the same!
I give an example:
12bet vs Marathon Value bet arbs 5%
12bet Odds 2.0 VS Marathon 2.25
Marathon, I'm sure it's worth betting because I'm pretty sure the 12bet odds are the sharpest, long betting is impossible to lose my money so i just need to bet on Marathon. In a day's time, I can get two hundred abrs, 200 * 30, in a month I get 6000 samples, so I know it's worth betting.
Your game statistics are too few samples, and you are not sure whether the 2016 season and the 2017 season are the same as + profit. Very likely 2017 season is lost money, OK, even if the 2018 season you are + profit, do we need to wait the whole season, time is expensive!
As I said, that's just statistical data, the statistics dictate that you need long-term bets and hard to wait for profits.
And your statistics, all the races and odds all need our own creation, which is a big mistake.
OK, even if I create the best strategy tips, we have the confidence to get the value of betting?
NO, too few samples, and the previous high profits do not represent today's profits.
I have the idea to do the real value of the bet, but my English is not good, I can not express my thoughts.
I've seen the best value betting for Asians to develop the software: their way is that you can create your own strategy so that everything simulates bets, real odds, make it fully automated, a week after you turn on the computer, You can see hundreds or even thousands of samples, you pick the most profitable, let it run.
If you do not believe me say - I am sure that your software sales are problematic if you do not work hard to modify it.
Let's take a few months to see the effect, if I am wrong, I will apologize to you at the forum.
- mate
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Re: Odds4Stats (O4S) new value betting service
I will not reply, thank you very much for your attitude! Arbusers a few months ago has been prompted the market will have new value software, I just complained that in the long wait, but in the end was very disappointed!
For arbusers, I am very grateful! Have learned a lot in the forum!
For O4S, your service is very good, just software, I do not see any valuable things!
For arbusers, I am very grateful! Have learned a lot in the forum!
For O4S, your service is very good, just software, I do not see any valuable things!