Same to me. i had even palps (halftime was mixed with fulltime) and there wasnt any void.
BUT, everything is changing and even Pinnacle could be enough greedy to make extra profit for the company
Any decent bookie rules should be. If there are palps and u cancel BEFORE event has started, then its ok. If event is running then take your losses. Bookies have enough time to cancel palps before event.
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I am sorry Alfa but thats not true...I am placing 100 live bets per day.
There is a local bookie that give me everyday GREAT arbs with Pinny.
7-8-9%....Live arbitrage
Before placing a bet i check every time the lines if they are correct.If they are correct i am going for...if they are not i am not touching it.I believe i have enough experience to understand whats going on.
Last week i had 2 bets voided. One from Pinny for "incorrect lines" it was a 6% arb and one from the local bookie for a 7% arb. One was a winning bet the other a lost bet.
Last week they where A LOT OF ARBS in greek Football league. Some of them where middles. Pinnacle paid all of them.
So i believe nowdays that Pinny hasnt a clear strategy on voiding or not....
There is a local bookie that give me everyday GREAT arbs with Pinny.
7-8-9%....Live arbitrage
Before placing a bet i check every time the lines if they are correct.If they are correct i am going for...if they are not i am not touching it.I believe i have enough experience to understand whats going on.
Last week i had 2 bets voided. One from Pinny for "incorrect lines" it was a 6% arb and one from the local bookie for a 7% arb. One was a winning bet the other a lost bet.
Last week they where A LOT OF ARBS in greek Football league. Some of them where middles. Pinnacle paid all of them.
So i believe nowdays that Pinny hasnt a clear strategy on voiding or not....
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Pinnacle behavior during live was totally normal, after the games over, they payed. Odds were not visible palps. They let me do 12 arbs on a single game, no suspension, nothing.
Probably later, they saw, how much they lost in the morning by the hand of arbers like me and they decided, let's void it, we can always invoke the Point 10.3 of our Terms and Conditions.
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We make every effort to ensure that we do not make errors in posting lines. However, if as a result of human error or system problems a bet is accepted at an odd that is materially different from those available in the general market at the time the bet was made or clearly incorrect given the chance of the event occurring at the time the bet was made, Pinnacle reserves the right to cancel that wager.
If Pinnacle decides to cancel a wager for this reason, all bets on the incorrect odd will be cancelled. We do not selectively cancel bets.
Probably later, they saw, how much they lost in the morning by the hand of arbers like me and they decided, let's void it, we can always invoke the Point 10.3 of our Terms and Conditions.
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We make every effort to ensure that we do not make errors in posting lines. However, if as a result of human error or system problems a bet is accepted at an odd that is materially different from those available in the general market at the time the bet was made or clearly incorrect given the chance of the event occurring at the time the bet was made, Pinnacle reserves the right to cancel that wager.
If Pinnacle decides to cancel a wager for this reason, all bets on the incorrect odd will be cancelled. We do not selectively cancel bets.
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In last 2 years , i have experienced more voided bets by Pinnacle (something like 7-8 voids) than all other softs together (4-5 voids).I would also add that my Pinny turnover was quite low , since i mostly used/use the other asians to arb ( no need to use pinny since they void often).
Had the Pinny turnover been bigger , i am pretty sure the voids would be much more.
Bottom line is that Pinny no longer guarantees that the bet will stand.
I can go all in SBObet , Dafa and other asians because i know that they will never void a bet (in play bet) ...but we cant do that at Pinnacle any more.
I dont see any advantage of Pinny compared to Asians , so better to skip Pinny since thats not a must bookie.
Had the Pinny turnover been bigger , i am pretty sure the voids would be much more.
Bottom line is that Pinny no longer guarantees that the bet will stand.
I can go all in SBObet , Dafa and other asians because i know that they will never void a bet (in play bet) ...but we cant do that at Pinnacle any more.
I dont see any advantage of Pinny compared to Asians , so better to skip Pinny since thats not a must bookie.
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That's totally accurate fnatic, i hit many palps on some soft books and a very low % of those are voided. And i'm talking about real palps, visible to the naked eye and still the soft bookie take the punch and assume the error. And when they void is most of the times before the game ends.
Pinnacle the A+ bookie, will cancel your bet (not a visible palp) just because. How can we defend from this? No defense possible.
You've been warned
Pinnacle the A+ bookie, will cancel your bet (not a visible palp) just because. How can we defend from this? No defense possible.
You've been warned
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Had 1.2k bets voided by Pinny on bejaija U21, FH Under 1.
You cant tell it was a palp, Ive seen too many other worse situations and in the end Pinny paid.
What can one do, its a variance.
In the long run is better to hit those lines anyway, than not hitting at all.
Happy Arbing!
You cant tell it was a palp, Ive seen too many other worse situations and in the end Pinny paid.
What can one do, its a variance.
In the long run is better to hit those lines anyway, than not hitting at all.
Happy Arbing!
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Could be guys, I'm just talking about my own experience. Never had a bet void by Pinnacle myself.
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you are lucky man )joker9424 wrote: I am sorry Alfa but thats not true...I am placing 100 live bets per day.
There is a local bookie that give me everyday GREAT arbs with Pinny.
7-8-9%....Live arbitrage
Before placing a bet i check every time the lines if they are correct.If they are correct i am going for...if they are not i am not touching it.I believe i have enough experience to understand whats going on.
Last week i had 2 bets voided. One from Pinny for "incorrect lines" it was a 6% arb and one from the local bookie for a 7% arb. One was a winning bet the other a lost bet.
Last week they where A LOT OF ARBS in greek Football league. Some of them where middles. Pinnacle paid all of them.
So i believe nowdays that Pinny hasnt a clear strategy on voiding or not....
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From my experience while arbing if both odds are over 1.85 and arb is more than 3% it can be risky in my opinion and can expect voiding email since they can say something like "The bet was placed on an incorrect line, and has therefore been cancelled."
If there are suspicious odds, my recommendation is to place bet on it, then wait for live and if they didn't void your bet place bet to complete arb.
If there are suspicious odds, my recommendation is to place bet on it, then wait for live and if they didn't void your bet place bet to complete arb.
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