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Re: BrokerStorm and KingFair account closed from €300 to €4100

Thu Jun 20, 2024 8:48 am

James Ravazzolo wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2024 7:08 pm
do Kingfair lay bets get added to the Betfair pool, available to everyone (even me on Orbit), or do they stay strictly within Kingfair ? I still don't see why anyone would match that horse at 5, when best case scenario it was tied with 3 other horses at an unimportant stage in the race. This was a BSP 13.5 horse alongside three other horses (presumably all lower odds, but I have not confirmed that) and someone took 5 ? You've never said how much was matched, was this 10 , 100, or more? And perhaps most important, how long did it take to go from 300 to 4100 ? This normally does not happen in horse racing, its nearly impossible, unless it was a few bets and strictly dumb luck. Their analysis software kicked in and determined this was so far out of the norm that it has to be due to some other factors. If you're a victim of bad luck due to way too much luck, that's unfortunate.
I had the account for about 2 months, deposited a total of €300, and increased the balance to around 2,000€ in the first few weeks with bets on tennis, football, and horses, ranging between 20€, 50€, 100€, and 200€ as my balance grew. In the last month, I focused heavily on horse betting with bets of 100€-200€. Although I lost many bets, the ones I won had prizes of 500€ to 700€. That's why I am asking you to send me the statement of my bets so I can share them.

The issue is that on the day my account was blocked, I won a prize of 700€ and another smaller one, raising my balance from 2,900€ to 4,100€. However, they sent me a race claiming they blocked my account without having any winnings, and in the race where I won 700€, my account was blocked right after that. I thought they blocked my account because of that race, but I was surprised by what I shared earlier.
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Re: BrokerStorm and KingFair account closed from €300 to €4100

Thu Jun 20, 2024 9:09 am

James Ravazzolo wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2024 9:39 pm
you might check out historicdata.betfair.com/#/home

I once had to look over thousands of in-play horse files, and they probably come from here. They have a .bz2 extension and there is an online tool to extract the data to a csv file. Its thousands of lines of in-play odds for the race, from start to end. If Betfair was involved in the matching at 5, it would show up in such a file. If not and this was a KingFair only lay / back, it wont be in there. These historical files vary from free to costly, I dont know if the free would have enough granularity to include every lay/back. If you know someone with a BF account they can get the free data for the time period and find the particular race. If it has the in-play data then maybe buy the Pro or Advanced version. But if this was a KingFair only situation, your 5 Lay offer wont be there.
I obtained the info from betfair, not from TIMEFORM. You can see for yourself here promo.betfair.com/betfairsp/prices , the name of the file is dwbfpricesukwin25052024.csv

AxelT already sent it to me, but it only shows Hi/Lo. It doesn't show everything at stake during the race, which would be ideal to see. Apart from not having a Betfair account and the friend who sent me the live race samples, I suppose the free files are not 100% reliable regarding Hi/Lo as shown by TIMERFORM.
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Re: BrokerStorm and KingFair account closed from €300 to €4100

Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:00 pm

if KingFair allows their own 'internal' lay / back bets that dont get pooled to Betfair (as well as Orbit and Piwi), then Betfair is really irrelevant here. I'm surprised its hard to determine if KingFair strictly and solely follows Betfair odds (as does Orbit / Piwi) or has their own odds along with those of Betfair. KingFair allows lay betting on horses, that is certainly a unique situation. Orbit is much more well-known, yet doesn't allow lay betting on horses (but does on other sports).

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