Arbusers

Hello to everybody,
I will add my fresh experience.

I have used Bet In Asia for half a year and I never had issues, even with singbet. I mostly bet on minor leagues.
Today I bet 75 euros on a major league (Brugge-Gent, over 2.25).
The final result was 3-2. I got voided.

In response to somebody who said to avoid getting near ~+8% of ROI, I checked and my ROI with singbet at the moment is -15%. I betted also 5 euros on a "surebet" a couple of minutes ago, id est 1.06, and it did not get voided. This means that it is not actually my account through BIA which as been marked, but it is that specific bet which they did not like (too many winners?).

Moreover, since I never had any problem with minor leagues (where singbet was the only book) I can also think, as somebody else said, that their algorithm doesn't like when it senses other books to drop faster than singbet's one. So, perhaps if only singbet is available they will not void, but obviously it is not guaranteed.

Nessuno Qualcuno wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 29, 2023 6:41 pm

Moreover, since I never had any problem with minor leagues (where singbet was the only book) I can also think, as somebody else said, that their algorithm doesn't like when it senses other books to drop faster than singbet's one. So, perhaps if only singbet is available they will not void, but obviously it is not guaranteed.

Hi Nessuno .


I am sorry for your voided bet and thanks for sharing your experience.

In my opinion , after a relatively small sample of 50 bets with singbet and since you also had a similar experience with no voids when betting in lower leagues that only singbet was available , its pretty clear to me . I find it difficult to be just a coincidence that 90% of my voided bets with them were in matches where also pinnacle bf and isn offered odds at the same time as singbet. Singbet always had slightly better odds , however those odds were starting to drop on some or every other book , while in singbet remained the same . Ofcourse this is something that attracts valuebettors as we always want the highest odds available , however to my eyes its not worth it .
Lets say for example that we have a live match and an over 2.5 goals line . Lets assume that pinnacle offers odds of 1.90 , isn 1.91 and bf 1.92 . At the same time singbet offers 1.95 . On average we have a 1.0% greater profit if we take the line of singbet vs those of the other books.
But , since singbet tends to void so often on such occasions , I cant help but think that 1.0% greater profit for such a high probability to get voided is just not worth the risk. This might actually be a very welcome situation by singbet and here's why . If your bet loses they ofcourse won't void and keep your money. If your bet wins , they go ahead and void the bet with the reasoning of '' wrong ''odds because their odds didnt adjust accordingly to those of the other books. Not that they gonna explain this to you , but maybe this is how they treat those kind of bets. This is my personal interpretation of the situation so far and ofcourse I could be wrong.

For what its worth , I keep using singbet for my bets applying the '' rule '' above. When other books are available in the market I uncheck singbet from the bookies list ,so as to be sure that my bet wont be accepted by them . I only use them when they are the only book available. So far so good . Zero voids .


Regards

I would like to thank you all for contributing your experiences and your evaluation for Singbet. Very soon I will rewrite the review and I will include many of your thoughts so people will be more informed and take the appropriate action.

signbet almost cancels bets every time! no one needs to enter this bookmaker!!!!

I don't understand, this discussion seems to be a replica of the discussions of 1xbet and clones, i.e. knowing that you will most likely lose money but risk using the book in question anyway.

betto88t wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 03, 2023 10:23 pm

I don't understand, this discussion seems to be a replica of the discussions of 1xbet and clones, i.e. knowing that you will most likely lose money but risk using the book in question anyway.

As far as I understand, 1xbet will. just not let you walk away with money. Sing will.

ex-hft wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 04, 2023 10:31 pm

betto88t wrote: ↑

Fri Feb 03, 2023 10:23 pm

I don't understand, this discussion seems to be a replica of the discussions of 1xbet and clones, i.e. knowing that you will most likely lose money but risk using the book in question anyway.

As far as I understand, 1xbet will. just not let you walk away with money. Sing will.

Yeah, they will let you walk with money, but they will also void half of your bets.
Maybe good for some value bets but for arbing is a big NO.

Singbet is kind of funny. Always they try to find a reason to void a bet

"Good day!

We would like to inform you that your bet with reference ID < 70925217687 > placed in SINGBET for the match between “ Al Markhiya v Qatar SC " has been graded as VOID due to the venue has changed to （Qatar SC）. Thus we have voided the said bet/s in Asianodds and returned your stake. This is also a reminder that any of the bookies reserves the right to grade bets in any way, at any point in time, at their sole discretion.

If you have further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us anytime.

Thank you.

Regards,
The Asianodds Team"

The deal is that Al Markhiya have QATAR SC stadium as their home arena as well and in this case if any of the team had an advantage it was the team who I placed a bet against and who lost.

Just a childish reason to void the bet. Better to stay away from them, especially when you have alternatives.

We have so many reports from members saying that Singbet voids bets, and this is completely true. But for some time now I am wondering if Singbet voids losing bets as well so I decided to dig towards that direction.
And the answer is yes, Singbet voids losing bets too and returns the money to the account owners. I came to this conclusion after consulting key figures of the industry, people that have access to the data. My next question is what is the ratio of winning/losing bets that Singbet voids? A very general answer wold be 90/10. Of course over the years we never had a complaint for voiding a losing bet, and that is normal I guess.
I decided to have a deeper look at the nature of the bets that Singbet voids, and I believe that an educated bettor could avoid the majority of voids by applying some simple principles of value betting. He would take the value from every bet, without squeezing situations for Singbet that would make them void.
I will soon include some of my findings in the initial review of Singbet and I believe soon we will have some guidelines that would protect people from having so many void bets.

regarding singbet, I bet live on game Koln - Bayern over 2,5 goals.

27. 5. 2023 16:16:07 - SINGBET, over 2,5 goals, odd: 2,17
27. 5. 2023 16:16:19 - SINGBET, over 2,5 goals, odd: 2,19
27. 5. 2023 16:17:28 - SINGBET, over 2,5 goals, odd: 2,31

My first two bets have been voided, the third one was settled. SINGBET explanation is that they voided it because there were"abnormal betting conditions" . What would be abnormal about a Bundesliga match watched by millions people? Of course the odds were jumping up and down, because of the character of the game. There is really we can not do anything with this unfair behaviour?

arbusers wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 08, 2023 5:00 pm

He would take the value from every bet, without squeezing situations for Singbet that would make them void.

A safer approach would be to simple place 1 bet instead of 3. I believe Singbet voids more when they see multiple bets at the same outcome/event.

I am quoting 2 phrases from arbusers:

arbusers wrote: ↑

Sun Jan 01, 2023 2:01 pm

Also based on long term observation, it is advisable that you should not repeat your bets.

and

arbusers wrote: A safer approach would be to simple place 1 bet instead of 3. I believe Singbet voids more when they see multiple bets at the same outcome/event.

Do you think we are safe if we only put just 1 bet in every game?
That would work for me.

Safe? You mean no voids. No. If you manage to catch heavy steam especially minor games they will void you from time to time no matter how much you stake and how many bets. Accept that.

arbusers wrote: ↑

Sat May 27, 2023 7:48 pm

arbusers wrote: ↑

Wed Feb 08, 2023 5:00 pm

He would take the value from every bet, without squeezing situations for Singbet that would make them void.

A safer approach would be to simple place 1 bet instead of 3. I believe Singbet voids more when they see multiple bets at the same outcome/event.

I only cover multiple outcomes on same event in local shops never online, isn't that suspicious, especially if the bookie is offering for example double chances and you place on X (draw) and 2 (away) instead of X2 (draw or away)...

For example, Betcoin , never place multiple outcomes on same event. It was about shoots on goals, I covered 1 (home) will have more shoots on goal, and on Betcoin I covered X (draw) and 2 (away), and that was my first and last time betting on Betcoin, they limited me instantly after the match was finished.

neopas wrote: ↑

Wed May 31, 2023 8:55 am

arbusers wrote: A safer approach would be to simple place 1 bet instead of 3. I believe Singbet voids more when they see multiple bets at the same outcome/event.

Do you think we are safe if we only put just 1 bet in every game?
That would work for me.

I said safer, not safe.

We are sending our messages to Singbet through 3rd parties and of course they know the disappointment of their clients.

Based on long term observation conducted by agents who offer Singbet, I can say that one bet per event is much safer than multiple bets in the same event. There are more possibilities to have all your bets voided when you place multiple bets, compared to a situation when you place a single bet per event.