By the way another thing.
No doubt that asianodds is a usefull tool but it has costed me dearly due to a very dangerous flaw.
Many times live bets are in waiting status for way too long (much more that expected pending time) , i mean sometimes that can be 4-5 minutes or more!!!
I am sure you can understand what that means in a live bet... can be disastrous!
Wait.... can be even worse! It turned out that many times bets are already accepted but shown as waiting because platform isn't refreshing properly!
Now , this have costed me many many many .... and some many more times bigger than the singbet's voided bet!
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Yep, as you know well. So it's very funny you are complaining now. You have to notice you are a worse arber than typical newbies who don't know this kind of risk and have become the victims.cortomaltese wrote: Singbet is wellknown for voiding bets.
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In case you didn't noticed it's the first time i am having a bet voided from singbet , eventhough i am using them for years and that's because that particular bet "i would'n feel insecure to place even to average bookie"
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thanks for your good words , i am always happy to accept advises from "master arbers" like you!w62upr wrote:Yep, as you know well. So it's very funny you are complaining now. You have to notice you are a worse arber than typical newbies who don't know this kind of risk and have become the victims.cortomaltese wrote: Singbet is wellknown for voiding bets.
In case you didn't noticed it's the first time i am having a bet voided from singbet , eventhough i am using them for years and that's because that particular bet "i would'n feel insecure to place even to average bookie"
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singbet via Asian odds has voided two of my winning live bets in the last three days.
2 out of 8 bets placed
2 out of 8 bets placed
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A number of people reported that Singbet voids a lot, especially when the action is very sharp. Be very much careful with this. I would avoid Singbet for arbing reasons.
On the other hand, if Singbet action is that much important for you, then you should take a look here:
Thank you, and really naza and whocares, I m sorry for your losses.
On the other hand, if Singbet action is that much important for you, then you should take a look here:
I understand that Skype betting comes with significant delays and it is not the ''real thing'' as we know it. Maybe someone finds it useful.BetInAsia wrote: Skype Betting: We will ask a minimum of 5000 EUR as deposit and 1000 EUR is minimum stake amount via Skype betting. We are guaranteeing that your bets will not be voided by Singbet if it is placed through our Skype betting service.
Thank you, and really naza and whocares, I m sorry for your losses.
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Actually, people using singbet for long time via different platforms (ac/pro/pt) can make an informative analsys about what percentage of their voided bets were win and what percentage were loss. What percentage were before match what percentage were after match.
Maybe if I find time I can create an analsys in upcoming days probably I had more than 40-50 voided bets in last 5 years. I can dig into history and come with a sign.
Maybe if I find time I can create an analsys in upcoming days probably I had more than 40-50 voided bets in last 5 years. I can dig into history and come with a sign.
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You are very clever and I like your way of thinking. Waiting for your analysis.
On a side note, I m working on a project that will guarantee absolutely no void bets from singbet.
On a side note, I m working on a project that will guarantee absolutely no void bets from singbet.
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Could you understand why Sing is voiding bets? I see that sometimes SING is not dropping odds even I take a bet. After betting with maximum limit most bookies drop odds by 0.05-0.10. As example SBO drops 0.06 in average, PIN drops 0.10, IBC drops 0.08. Sometimes I can take same odd duplicated from Sing. However these bets are in high risk group - can be voided. Maybe some of their systems or agent's systems is not working sometimes then they void our bets. Also SING drops odd less compared to other bookies they drop 0.04-0.05 in general after I take a bet with their maximum limit. Also they can have huge limits in minor leagues sometimes like 10x of PIN/IBC or 5x of SBO.Arbusers wrote: You are very clever and I like your way of thinking. Waiting for your analysis.
On a side note, I m working on a project that will guarantee absolutely no void bets from singbet.
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Its almost like we have become resigned that Singbet will void some of our bets.
Its OUTRAGOUS that a book voids a bet just because they dont like the way the line is moving, or the result of a game etc
Barring an obvious pricing error (Ie inverted odds or an added decimal place, or an early starting match etc) no bookmaker should ever void a bet!!
Its OUTRAGOUS that a book voids a bet just because they dont like the way the line is moving, or the result of a game etc
Barring an obvious pricing error (Ie inverted odds or an added decimal place, or an early starting match etc) no bookmaker should ever void a bet!!
Never trust a goose!!!
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Today again they voided my 1000 Euros of over bet after 4th minute goal come. They voided at 18:05, goal come at 18:04.
Currently match is 3:0 and 56th minute.
As I said I will make a big observation about them with stats later but I need a big free time.
Currently match is 3:0 and 56th minute.
As I said I will make a big observation about them with stats later but I need a big free time.
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Also this is from two days ago, again winning bet is voided :
By the way these examples are not from AsianOdds but this happens there too. I think it is not related with AsianOdds or other agents. Its Singbet itself is problem.
By the way these examples are not from AsianOdds but this happens there too. I think it is not related with AsianOdds or other agents. Its Singbet itself is problem.
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I'm sorry...but this problem has been documented for years and there are literally hundreds of reports all over the internet about it. Why do you still use them if you don't think their odds outweigh the risk of voided bets? It's not like you didn't know it was going to happen...?
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By the way UAE match ended 3-0, so they become voided my losing o3.75 bet.
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Is there a big document with all statistics of their voided bets in somewhere. They sometimes void also losing bets too. Actually I need a number like 65% of their voids are winning, 35% are losing bets ect. Or 70% before match, 10% during match, 20% after match. By examining these stats we can understand what they are doing. Everybody say they are voiding bets yes they do my 2 bets voided in last 2 days but I think we need more detailed data. Maybe we can prove their freud by this way. Not using them without proof is hard because their limits are huge in some leagues and if we stop using them we will left 50% of stakes in some minor leagues. I know its weird but somehow we should prove what they are doing. By time we can increase number of samples here. And examine samples and try to find a formula about when they void.Alfa1234 wrote: I'm sorry...but this problem has been documented for years and there are literally hundreds of reports all over the internet about it. Why do you still use them if you don't think their odds outweigh the risk of voided bets? It's not like you didn't know it was going to happen...?
By the way UAE match ended 3-0, so they become voided my losing o3.75 bet.
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There is nothing to "proove". They know they void, agents know they void, the public knows they void. It's not a scam on their part. It's part of their (to us Westerners weird) culture to think there is nothing wrong with it and in their eyes they are not doing anything wrong at all and aren't scamming people. If you don't like it, simply don't use them, or use them through Betinasia, a broker supported by this forum that guarantees no-voids from Singbet.
What do you want to accomplish by "proving" there is a system to the voids? It doesn't change anything and they will not change their behaviour.
What do you want to accomplish by "proving" there is a system to the voids? It doesn't change anything and they will not change their behaviour.