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Re: Software: suspicious game activities

Tue Feb 28, 2023 12:43 pm

Don't even try searching for fixing proofs by watching the game, you won't notice anything, unless they are really incredibly stupid.
Croatia Sesvete players explained it in documentary about their scandal - "You couldn't see anything weird, we just didn't go 100% and that was enough."
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Re: Software: suspicious game activities

Tue Feb 28, 2023 12:55 pm

Mtipster wrote: Don't even try searching for fixing proofs by watching the game, you won't notice anything, unless they are really incredibly stupid.
Croatia Sesvete players explained it in documentary about their scandal - "You couldn't see anything weird, we just didn't go 100% and that was enough."
Most companies who use OSINT methods(like Sportradar) involve match footage in their research. If you know what to look for, then shouldnt be a problem to spot those suspicious plays either from referees or players.
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Re: Software: suspicious game activities

Fri Apr 26, 2024 5:47 am

Mtipster wrote:
Tue Feb 28, 2023 12:43 pm
Don't even try searching for fixing proofs by watching the game, you won't notice anything, unless they are really incredibly stupid.
In the past 5 months had to do some arbing between BF and other bookies - even pinnacle. You don't need some fancy expensive software. There are plenty pretty reliable official solutions to you problem, automated programs/bots which can be programmed to do exactly what you want. You just make the correct trigger/triggers and will be able to se exactly what you want. Betangel/Marketfeeder are such, you can check them all the official Bf site.

Gradually I started taking notes for some games/leagues exactly as you described. The most precious feature of the exchange is the Volume traded/placed. You can't hide it if you want to place a huge/fixed bet. It is happening every single day - some Turkish super leagues games are like pre-scribed scenarios. The other day even the Austrian Bundesliga - Klagenfurt - Salzburg game was suspicious for me, after 2 goals lead. All the shenanigans are happening In-play - there is the crux. You have to monitor the action/prices/volumes and will see it.
It is in plain sight - another real example from Greece super league2 from 22.04: Iraklis - Aiolikos. Everything seems to have been pretty normal up to the 80 minute of the game - wasn't watching it just accidently saw the amount asked lay at 1.5-1.53 for Draw, it got my interest. Someone started putting money, I mean disproportionally amount to the total amount in the match - around 8-9K GBP as I recall. Still nothing, but then the match/market was suspended, it may have been some VAR/other situation. Suspension was lifted and boom - the money were still there. Usually when your bet is in danger - you cancel it. But someone wanted it so bad! They got matched gradually (and in full) and 2 minutes later - voila - you have a penalty kick.
There are no guarnatees in life/games, even fixed ones. The penalty may have been missed, VAR overruling the situation etc, so this type of situations are not 100% certain. We don't know other peoples intentions, but still - follow the money and you will find incentives/intentions.

You don't need something special, to quote Yogi Berra: "You can observe a lot by just watching"
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Re: Software: suspicious game activities

Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:36 am

A few quick thoughts.

1) Thank you for sharing your thoughts

2) There is definitely some truth in what you describe

3) But not everything that looks like a pattern is one

4) Sure you need to observe, but you also need to know what to observe.
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Re: Software: suspicious game activities

Fri Apr 26, 2024 9:19 am

Do research (name of referees, lineups ) take data (betfair and pinnacle odds movements) and make notes and evidence of your bets. Do this and always try to bet at local bookmakers best odds. honestly, i dont follow the big leagues mentioned (turkish and austria top leagues) i look for lower division games.

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