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Grant wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 15, 2024 8:56 pm

apoel81 wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 15, 2024 8:30 pm

Grant wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 15, 2024 8:01 pm

how do you force russian mafia to pay you? Again, this is not european bookie, even european bookie could delay payment for months/years, we talk about russian 1xbet, seriously anyone thinking about suing them must be extreme naive.

Is this the first time you saw someone suing a Curacao based book? Seriously? In fact, this is the only way to have his deposits back. What is not clear yet in my mind, is weather he deserves to have his deposits back or not.

I dont care about any Curacao based books. I wonder if someone sued 1XBET for such amout we talk about and got his money back. First its gonna cost a lot and I just wonder what are REAL chances, in percentages to win a case. Second - what are real chances, in percentages you're gonna see your money back in your account even if you won. Be realistic, its not a high number and I guess its not worth it.

1. Since you are a lawyer, i assume you are aware that many lawyers works with ''no cure no pay'' method. Why you say it will cost him much when he will risk nothing?

2. If he won the case in the court, i see very big chances to see him getting at least his deposits back. Unless 1xbet is willing to loose their license, they will comply with court decision.

3. In my eyes he has valid reasons to win a court case. Even if he pretended to be an Iranian living in Bangladesh, 1xbet should have had extended KYC after first 2k withdrawal which obviously they didn't. So both parties tried to scum each other.

4. Anyway, i am not saying that he will win a court case, yet it is not a zero chance case either,

Let it be then, I would gladly see him taking 1XBET to the court cause Im pretty sure even if he wins he wont get his winnings. Deposit - may be (if he is lucky) but not any money he won. Im pretty sure even if they wont pay him back they wont lose a licence. Cmon, 1XBET known as thieves still advertising big european clubs, its all about money, Im too lazy to explain how world work, we are just small fishes and everyone out there can be bought, I just dont believe that anyone suing such big company, even thieves, can make them lose a licence, no way. Some people invested shitloads of money in 1XBET "moneyprinting" machine and no way they let anyone shut down their source of money.

Grant wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 15, 2024 8:01 pm

What court you guys are talking about? Seriously? Im a lawyer and first we didnt get an answer WHAT KIND of documents they accepted, did they accept ID card or anything with IRANIAN address written there? Or they accepted him as iranian citizen of Bangladesh? Doesnt really matter to be honest anyway, guys this is RUSSIAN bookie, yeah get them to the court Im rolling on the floor laughing, they may even do not show up and ignore what court decided, how do you force russian mafia to pay you? Again, this is not european bookie, even european bookie could delay payment for months/years, we talk about russian 1xbet, seriously anyone thinking about suing them must be extreme naive.

Sorry for going off the topic, but how do you find time to work as a lawyer and work as a smart bettor? Kinda impressive ngl.

Now i gotta explain to little members here if i deserve this back or not .
We are talking about Terms and conditions and law , not your feelings about me being deserved to get a refund or not .

Please hold your personal opinions to yourselves and add comments about laws and ways to solve this problem .
If you have nothing important to share rather than your feelings , please don't write here , cause this is serious talk .

Curaçao e-Gaming Authority needs to reopen the case and watch my evidences (photos and videos and laws and T&C statements) , i missed their emails and they set a 6-7 day time to respond , after i missed that , they didn't answer to any of my emails and ruled in favor of a scam russian bookmaker .

Abbas Pornour wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 16, 2024 1:37 am

We are talking about Terms and conditions and law , not your feelings about me being deserved to get a refund or not .

Man, why dont you answer some crucial questions here? People ask you questions and refusing to do that means you've got something to hide or you are not quite honest here. Again, the most important question to me is: did they accept you as citizen of Bangladesh or Iran (by mistake here)? Did you provide them any proof of address and what was that, Bangladesh or Iran?

Abbas Pornour wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 16, 2024 1:37 am

If you have nothing important to share rather than your feelings , please don't write here , cause this is serious talk .

Wait a second, you just registerd here, there is no way to verify if you are a legit bettor. You throw accusations, refuse to answer all questions to clarify your case and complain that people share their feelings? At the moment people cant share anything else than feelings cause you didnt provide all evidences and didnt answer all questions. Show some respect to old forum members rather than expecting we're gonna trust anyone who come here and shout his accusations.

Sorry guys , i didn't see the second page of this forum so some of your replies was unseen by me .

Look , i am an iranian citizen , no other country other than iran , all my documents (address + id + everything is iranian) .

I choosed bangladesh by mistake when i registered there and told the support staff many times to change my country to iran (to 3 different departments of 1xbet (security department , public relations and also iranian official support)

They ignored all my emails .

Abbas Pornour wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 17, 2024 2:07 am

Sorry guys , i didn't see the second page of this forum so some of your replies was unseen by me .

Look , i am an iranian citizen , no other country other than iran , all my documents (address + id + everything is iranian) .

I choosed bangladesh by mistake when i registered there and told the support staff many times to change my country to iran (to 3 different departments of 1xbet (security department , public relations and also iranian official support)

They ignored all my emails .

It's common knowledge that misclicking Bangladesh for Iran in a dropdown box is one of the most common errors when registering an account...
Don't loose your faith, you should get reimbursed one day

Hello, Abbas Pornur!

There is a possibility that you did not receive the final decision of our department and the licensee by email, so let me write it here.

According to our records: you choose the country by yourself, confirming your citizenship. This involves filling in all the data in the application form in accordance with the country you have chosen, its legislation, and the document you have. This way, we can be sure that during registration you have chosen the right country.

We would also like to emphasise that the company does not provide services in Iran, so registration and change of country is not possible. However, we continue to provide services to those players who registered before the change in our policy regarding Iranian players.

In addition, you are responsible for determining whether accessing the site and/or using its products violates the laws of your country and ensuring that gambling is legal in your place of residence. If we have reasonable grounds to believe that a user is not complying with our Terms of Service, we reserve the right to terminate or suspend their account. We also reserve the right to cancel and/or void any bets and retain any funds in your account, including deposits, if your account is closed or suspended for breach of our Terms of Service.
You can read the rules yourself on our website, however, it should be noted that all players have been made aware of the rules when they register.


According to the Curacao Electronic Gaming Licensee's response to us:

CEG makes a decision in favour of the Operator (1xBet) because
- The Operator, in the opinion of CEG, acted in accordance with the public information on its website, to which the Operator referred, and provided supporting statements.
- The player was unable to provide any evidence that the Operator made any adjustments or withheld the winnings.
- The player bases his claim on the (alleged) violation of the rule (illegal action). Even if this is the case, which the CEG was unable to establish, the relative aspect of illegality means that the rule violated by the offender should have been codified in order to protect the interests that were harmed.
However, the rule on which the player bases its claim does not pass the relativity test in this particular case. Whatever the alleged violation or rule, due to the fact that it does not pass the relativity test, it is decided that the Operator acted in accordance with the rules and regulations concerning the issues related to the player.

Our security department was fully guided by the company's Terms and Conditions in blocking the player's account. In this case, violation of our company's policy leads to an indefinite block.

We wish you all the best,

1xBet team

I don't understand why you posted CEG's final decision ?
I already told you 1000 times , i missed the 7day timing because they sent an email (no calls or anything just an email) , and i simply missed it , and they ruled in 6our favor .
I wrote many times to them (over 100 emails) but they didn't even look at it or respond .

Are you sure you don't provide services to iranians?
So if provide enough evidence that you still register iranian players under their original country (Iran) , with exclusive card 2 card and iranian bank payments + official iranian support , will you rest your case?
I know you like money coming from blacklisted countries by international laws , but you gotta treat them right my friend , if you don't then you gotta pay the price
CEG's authorities clearly stated that it's 1xbet's total and sole responsibility to do their due diligence regarding kyc of customer and be aware of their jurisdiction's law regarding gambling and even international laws (FATF/AML) .
In this case you totally failed , i registered as BANGLADESH but provided you id document from IRAN , sent you an address from IRAN , sent you electricity bill from IRAN , Print of my bank from IRAN , and even requested to change my country to IRAN several times .

I will attach the evidence of 1xbet's providing services to iranian people , so i simply reveal you are totally lying about not providing services for iran .

You rules and T&C are only binding when they abide your Licensor/authoriy Rule .

In that case , you are responsible about player's jurisdiction not the other way around .
This is totally illegal by 1xbet and will definitely be act upon .

Not everything you write in your T&C is legal , for example , if you write in your T&C that all players should pay us 1000$ money , even if the player accepts the term , it's completely illegal and not-binding .
So you can keep your T&C to yourself and refer to the curaçao t&c and jurisdiction laws .

now , let's dive into the most exciting part of 1xbet's illegal activities , lets hear again what they said "We would also like to emphasise that the company does not provide services in Iran"

When you go to 1xbet.com and want to create an account , there is no such option to select "Iran" or "912 +98 prefix for number" Or Any "IRR iranian rials currency" , But when you register using some special links created by 1xbet and promoted in iranian social medias , you can register under iranian currency and using a iranian phone number prefix and etc



Original website link : 1xbet.com

Special Link promoted by 1xbet in iranian social media : https://a7gthfvdfq7khn.life/ (you can only enter with asian or canada ip i guess)

(they may close the link i mentioned but as you can see i already created an account with Iran number and i have iranian payment options only)

I Also attach my newly created account with that link , logged in 1xbet.com with IRAN country + IRAN Prefix number and + IRANIAN EXCLUSIVE PAYMENT METHODS .
Also their advertisements in telegram for Iranian people attached .

So you can clearly understand , 1xbet representative lied about not providing services to iran .

they still do but "Quietly and in the shadows" so no authority or licensor can findout about this and revoke their license .

I Haven't seen 1xbet responding , have you?
Maybe i should start a reddit thread as well , btw do you know where (forums&websites) are they active?
I want to make a post and thread about their actions in all forums

How much did you loss +-? You said you deposited from 1-2M but subtracting the total withdrew, how much was the total loss? Did you have any positive reply or help from any lawyer firm regarding to this?

Besides SBGOK, is there any law firm that accepts cases like this with no cure no pay basis?

Both sides pretending being the dumper.