Do you have any idea if offline bookmakers participate in Betradar's system?
If a large bet is placed in a net of shops, will it crash online odds i.e Bet365 and others?
Do you think Betradar grades with different gravity every bookmaker? Maybe a bet in Bet365 is crashing the odds more than the same bet in Ladbrokes for example?
Any idea, or info?
Thank you.
Betradar offline bookmakers and gravity
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These are very good questions.
Yes, most of line bookmakers are Betradar's clients. In fact, only the bookmakers that do not face the danger of sharp action are not Betradar's clients. And of course a bookmaker that already decided not to pay out.
We need to define what a large bet is, because a large bet for bookmaker A might me a small bet for bookmaker B. But practice shows that a large bet placed offline will immediately crash the odds online too, if the offline bookmaker is a Betradar client.
Even if you use a net of shops and you distribute the bets among a large number of shops, the odds will be crashed. I have a very recent experience from a bettor who placed a bet of 50K in a big market, distributed to 40 different shops. The bet was placed simultaneously in all shops. Immediately the odds crashed online too.
In addition, when odds are crashed by this kind of action, other offline bookmakers will also be alerted by Betradar. So a big bet placed in Athens, will eventually have an impact in UK or Czech Republic shops.
As for the gravity, this is terra incognita for me. I believe only Betradar knows the answer.
Re: Betradar offline bookmakers and gravity
straili wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 7:20 pmDo you have any idea if offline bookmakers participate in Betradar's system?
If a large bet is placed in a net of shops, will it crash online odds i.e Bet365 and others?
Do you think Betradar grades with different gravity every bookmaker? Maybe a bet in Bet365 is crashing the odds more than the same bet in Ladbrokes for example?
These are very good questions.
Yes, most of line bookmakers are Betradar's clients. In fact, only the bookmakers that do not face the danger of sharp action are not Betradar's clients. And of course a bookmaker that already decided not to pay out.
We need to define what a large bet is, because a large bet for bookmaker A might me a small bet for bookmaker B. But practice shows that a large bet placed offline will immediately crash the odds online too, if the offline bookmaker is a Betradar client.
Even if you use a net of shops and you distribute the bets among a large number of shops, the odds will be crashed. I have a very recent experience from a bettor who placed a bet of 50K in a big market, distributed to 40 different shops. The bet was placed simultaneously in all shops. Immediately the odds crashed online too.
In addition, when odds are crashed by this kind of action, other offline bookmakers will also be alerted by Betradar. So a big bet placed in Athens, will eventually have an impact in UK or Czech Republic shops.
As for the gravity, this is terra incognita for me. I believe only Betradar knows the answer.
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Thank you so much for the information.
Are there other companies like Betradar offering similar services? Are TXOdds still in the game?
Once again thank you.
Are there other companies like Betradar offering similar services? Are TXOdds still in the game?
Once again thank you.
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I think Betradar became a monopoly. I m not sure if TXOdds is still around. Probably they didn't cope with the competition from Betradar. Their alert service for the retail market was one of the best we have ever seen in the arbing world back in the days, but then it was neglected.
As for Betradar I see them in many events and they always come with an army of managers. Their space is always one of the busiest and most expensive in any venue. I m sure they spend millions in every event. And I mean millions. Once, years ago, I spoke with one of their C level managers. I was impressed by his knowledge of the betting scene when literally everyone was asking ''what is arbing''.
Re: Betradar offline bookmakers and gravity
I think Betradar became a monopoly. I m not sure if TXOdds is still around. Probably they didn't cope with the competition from Betradar. Their alert service for the retail market was one of the best we have ever seen in the arbing world back in the days, but then it was neglected.
As for Betradar I see them in many events and they always come with an army of managers. Their space is always one of the busiest and most expensive in any venue. I m sure they spend millions in every event. And I mean millions. Once, years ago, I spoke with one of their C level managers. I was impressed by his knowledge of the betting scene when literally everyone was asking ''what is arbing''.
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