Arbusers

I found out by accident about the magnificent project of our Italian friends called "Operazione Nostalgia".

There were times when the whole world watched and learned lessons from great master tacticians like Arrigo Sacchi, Fabio Capello, Marcello Lippi, Giovanni Trapattoni, Carlo Mazzone, Eugenio Fascetti, Claudio Ranieri and many others.
People will never forget elegant-style players such as Roberto Baggio, Giuseppe Giannini, Carlo Ancelotti, Andrea Pirlo, Alessandro Del Piero, Francesco Totti, Roberto Mancini, Gianluca Vialli, Gianfranco Zola, defenders such as Pietro Vierchowod, Paolo Maldini, Franco Baresi, Guiseppe Bergomi, Mr. Internazionale: Javier Zanetti, legendary goalkeepers like Francesco Toldo, Gigi Buffon and countless others.


My idea is that if any fan of the Calcio's golden past has two or three minutes to spare, let her/him publish from time to time moments from the game that impressed her/him. A link (but without www.), a photo, personal memories from live stream/TV or even an eyewitness at the stadium. There are no restrictions at all - Serie A, Champions League, Coppa Italia, National Team etc.

Let's discuss those moments.

Carlo Mazzone played an important role in the careers of Totti, Pirlo, Guardiola, Baggio and countless others.

Mazzone tribute:
Pep Guardiola for his Coaching Teacher (short video)
youtube.com/shorts/DeGiFpU7M1g

Roberto Baggio (Longer video)
youtube.com/watch?v=CnJsoAQXkpU

Nice idea, I love that Italian football era, I'm Italian and born in 1976, 80-90s wow.

and you debuted with one of my favorite players (Robi Baggio)

and with a great character among the coaches (Carletto) what a legend!

surely one will soon be dedicated to Gianluca

This video gave me goosebumps. Thank you

Guys, for ease of use, you can post the actual links to your youtube videos here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl6IAK-OX1U

Thanks Gianluca for your beauty of mind and game

pkpunter wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:42 am

Nice idea, I love that Italian football era, I'm Italian and born in 1976, 80-90s wow.

and you debuted with one of my favorite players (Robi Baggio)

and with a great character among the coaches (Carletto) what a legend!

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I am so passionate about several sports and soccer is one of them. I will keep quiet about the modern so-called Calcio, but the golden Calcio of the 80s, 90s and even 2000s is tremendous Art in its purest form.

I often think how unfair Fate was to Carletto Mazzone. He didn't get a chance to coach a multi-million megastar selection like other tactical geniuses, although his over 1. 000 bench appearances (circa 800 in Serie A). I'm pretty sure the FIGC missed a golden chance twice:
- As far as I recall, at the end of the 2005/2006 season Mazzone qualified the Livorno Calcio team in 6th place! Later that year Marcello Lippi resigned from the National team as a World Champion.
In my opinion the most experienced coach in Italy Mazzone would start the basics of a new long-term era, combining a portfolio of pre-selected old plus young players in his style if he was invited, but the Federation...
-If Mazzone was hired later by the Federation instead of that stubborn ***censored*** Gian Piero Ventura , I'm sure Lorenzo Insigne would never be overlooked! Were the FIGC drunk during the coach selection? Didn't they see how this very stubborn ***censored*** killed the game, the beauty, the improvisation, the motivation???

But on the other hand, maybe Fate has purposely given him a different role. He never coached great star clubs with million budgets (even AS Roma under Mazzone didn't have a big budget corresponding to their pretend for the Scudetto), but he gave the world talents like Francesco Totti and Andrea Pirlo, saved Pep Guardiola for active soccer after the stupid ban. Remember how exactly he composed Brescia Calcio by top players in their 30s such as Baggio(36) and Pep(32)... Nowadays that age is pretty normal for contemporary soccer, but 20-25 years earlier that was a risky recruitment all the season long and he was among the Pioneers in that approach.
He gave a second football youth to Roberto Baggio, coached players such as Giuseppe Giannini in a good way, inspired some coaching ideas for Pep Guardiola's later coaching career… Note carefully what exactly happens when Man City under Pep changes the tempo and plays carefully by 4 defenders. But note more carefully when they switch to 5 defenders mode, hardly lose top-cannons' power in attack...

pkpunter wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:42 am

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surely one will soon be dedicated to Gianluca

This video gave me goosebumps. Thank you

pkpunter wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 31, 2023 2:51 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl6IAK-OX1U

Thanks Gianluca for your beauty of mind and game

I have very, very great respect for Vialli-Mancini-Pagliuca-Vierchowod and the whole of UC Sampdoria under Vujadin Boškov's governance. Endless numbers of finals in tournaments in Italy & Europe (the late 1980s and initial 1990s) and Scudetto & Coppa Italia and also EuroCup vs Anderlecht won.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZSBE08PCzY

Addendum: Dear Mr. Pkpunter, I wish you success in rescuing your account funds from these Russians from the Orbit pseudo exchange.

arb12 wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 01, 2023 12:13 am

I am so passionate about several sports and soccer is one of them. I will keep quiet about the modern so-called Calcio, but the golden Calcio of the 80s, 90s and even 2000s is tremendous Art in its purest form.

Of course I have no intention destroying a romantic picture, but to what extend do you think this era was ''clean''? I am speaking about several forms of ''clearness''. Do you think there was no fixing these days? Do you think players were clean of drugs and several types of dope?
All I am saying is that maybe we have a romantic picture in our minds, connected with our own youth and not with reality.

arb12 wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 01, 2023 12:26 am

pkpunter wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 31, 2023 12:42 am

...
surely one will soon be dedicated to Gianluca

This video gave me goosebumps. Thank you

pkpunter wrote: ↑

Thu Aug 31, 2023 2:51 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl6IAK-OX1U

Thanks Gianluca for your beauty of mind and game

I have very, very great respect for Vialli-Mancini-Pagliuca-Vierchowod and the whole of UC Sampdoria under Vujadin Boškov's governance. Endless numbers of finals in tournaments in Italy & Europe (the late 1980s and initial 1990s) and Scudetto & Coppa Italia and also EuroCup vs Anderlecht won.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZSBE08PCzY

Addendum: Dear Mr. Pkpunter, I wish you success in rescuing your account funds from these Russians from the Orbit pseudo exchange.

Congratulations for your knowledge and thanks for the support

arbusers wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 01, 2023 4:43 am

arb12 wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 01, 2023 12:13 am

I am so passionate about several sports and soccer is one of them. I will keep quiet about the modern so-called Calcio, but the golden Calcio of the 80s, 90s and even 2000s is tremendous Art in its purest form.

Of course I have no intention destroying a romantic picture, but to what extend do you think this era was ''clean''? I am speaking about several forms of ''clearness''. Do you think there was no fixing these days? Do you think players were clean of drugs and several types of dope?
All I am saying is that maybe we have a romantic picture in our minds, connected with our own youth and not with reality.

Yes this "little romantic" side but unfortunately absolutely true

pkpunter wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 01, 2023 11:42 am

arbusers wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 01, 2023 4:43 am

arb12 wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 01, 2023 12:13 am

I am so passionate about several sports and soccer is one of them. I will keep quiet about the modern so-called Calcio, but the golden Calcio of the 80s, 90s and even 2000s is tremendous Art in its purest form.

Of course I have no intention destroying a romantic picture, but to what extend do you think this era was ''clean''? I am speaking about several forms of ''clearness''. Do you think there was no fixing these days? Do you think players were clean of drugs and several types of dope?
All I am saying is that maybe we have a romantic picture in our minds, connected with our own youth and not with reality.

Yes this "little romantic" side but unfortunately absolutely true

Thanks for pinpointing that, Mr. Arbusers and Mr. Pkpunter. You both are very right.
It is only natural for every child, every teenager and every young person to attach some impressions to something interesting with the memorable possibly cool status of that age. That gives them emotional energy and vividness, helping them explore Life and move further.

But apart from this point on, as the ancient Philosophers said, Nature gave the people Mind and Consciousness. Therefore let me explain why I like Calcio's golden years much more compared to modern Italian soccer:
- Yes, everyone knows the shady stuff about Berlusconi and Mediolanum, the shady organizations around Maradona and Napoli, etc. Today is no different.
- In the past, almost none of the golden stars played abroad. Only in Serie A. The Calcio was like a magnet for all the stars of world soccer... Similar to the modern English Premier League. That fact gave us classy championships to be watched.
- I was nervous when the Van Basten-Gullit-Rijkaard's Milan under Sacchi usually locked the match at a stage one goal ahead instead of showing us their Art at 100 percent (similar behavior from Ancelotti's Real Madrid now) but contemporarily Milan is a viewing challenge in most cases...
- Most of these stars played very refined soccer (Baggio, Caniggia, Batistuta, Maradona, Careca etc), and not rude ones, remember Baresi, Maldini, Bergomi in the defence, very firm approach but not rude in most cases. I'm afraid after their era, let's say from Gennaro Gattuso to the contemporary times, they are more rude and almost lack of finesse in their style of play. Lack of refined Players such as Zidane, Baggio, Van Basten, Gianluigi Lentini, Andrea Pirlo, Zola today.
- Lack of bright personalities on the coaching benches. I learned a lot of tactical approaches from the coaches mentioned by me in my first post here in this thread. But from Zaccheroni till modern times... things tend towards mediocrity. Even defensive-minded Ivan Jovanović's Panathinaikos is much more appropriate to be watched than contemporary Italian Calcio...
Perhaps only Zdeněk Zeman from the old bright generation is active today, but they gave him a role in Serie D (Pescara Calcio), not in AS Roma in Serie A, what a shame!!! They didn't forgive his words for Juventus' shady things...
And all modern Calcio in terms of players and coaches is very much inclined towards mediocrity in the long term. EPL is the magnet today.

Nevertheless, Eugenio Fascetti is known as the Savior of Lazio, I remember how he coached other teams like Bari, Como etc. He gave the world the Antonio Cassano talent.
I'll never forget the way Bari was structured as a fortress in San Nicola, especially for Internazionale and other giants.
I'll never forget the day when Fascetti put two unknown 17-year-olds in the team and they won the match Bari against Internazionale.
Do you remember the glorious debut of Antonio Cassano and Hugo Enyinnaya vs Baggio and Lippi's Internazionale?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJmDyH-St0w

Laurent Blanc, why?
Angelo Peruzzi, why?

Great Italian football culture, here man you are truly bringing out Jollys.
Will be the next video for Gianfranco Zola, another big ten of our times !?

pkpunter wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:21 pm

Great Italian football culture, here man you are truly bringing out Jollys.
Will be the next video for Gianfranco Zola, another big ten of our times !?

C'mon, upload your memories... here in this thread, anyone is free to post her/his story that impressed her/him during the past.
And I hope eyewitnesses from any stadium describe her/his story.

arb12 wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 02, 2023 11:06 pm

pkpunter wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 02, 2023 10:21 pm

Great Italian football culture, here man you are truly bringing out Jollys.
Will be the next video for Gianfranco Zola, another big ten of our times !?

C'mon, upload your memories... here in this thread, anyone is free to post her/his story that impressed her/him during the past.
And I hope eyewitnesses from any stadium describe her/his story.

The thing is that your thread is only focusing on Italian football. I m sure there are guys in the forum who would like to share stories from their own countries.