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AUAvi wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:15 pm

Horse Racing & Cricket are the sports where I'm currently most active in.

I follow 2 jurisdictions in Horse Racing i.e Australia & UK. The racing in UK is extremely competitive and I've noticed that my strategies earn me much more profit in Australian Horse racing compared to UK Horse racing.

Betfair banned accounts from my country in 2019 and I've been forced to use Betting brokers where I can't use software and I can't "lay" horses either.

It took me a while to adjust my betting activities but I've been doing fairly well in the last 18 months or so.

ray mansi wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:15 am

AUAvi wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:15 pm

Horse Racing & Cricket are the sports where I'm currently most active in.

I follow 2 jurisdictions in Horse Racing i.e Australia & UK. The racing in UK is extremely competitive and I've noticed that my strategies earn me much more profit in Australian Horse racing compared to UK Horse racing.

Betfair banned accounts from my country in 2019 and I've been forced to use Betting brokers where I can't use software and I can't "lay" horses either.

It took me a while to adjust my betting activities but I've been doing fairly well in the last 18 months or so.

you win without software. impressive. People have always said australia racing is harder.
How many times you try to bet in a cricket game or how many games average in day

That winning horse betfair strategy in this forum over 3 months i seen plus 43 units with longest setback minus 39 units
Do you think its worthwhile. Im not sure because some bet 5 % bankroll, but with this it has to be minimum only 2% so far

arb12 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:11 pm

ray mansi wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:15 am

AUAvi wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:15 pm

Horse Racing & Cricket are the sports where I'm currently most active in.

I follow 2 jurisdictions in Horse Racing i.e Australia & UK. The racing in UK is extremely competitive and I've noticed that my strategies earn me much more profit in Australian Horse racing compared to UK Horse racing.

Betfair banned accounts from my country in 2019 and I've been forced to use Betting brokers where I can't use software and I can't "lay" horses either.

It took me a while to adjust my betting activities but I've been doing fairly well in the last 18 months or so.

you win without software. impressive. People have always said australia racing is harder.
How many times you try to bet in a cricket game or how many games average in day

That winning horse betfair strategy in this forum over 3 months i seen plus 43 units with longest setback minus 39 units
Do you think its worthwhile. Im not sure because some bet 5 % bankroll, but with this it has to be minimum only 2% so far

Trading software and alert services aren't required at all if you breath the passion of these markets.
Jimmy Quinn at Chelmsford is one model, Franny Norton at Wolverhampton is another, and Frankie Dettori at Santa Anita is quite another.
When it comes to the Great game of Cricket, it is an encyclopaedia. Ask your questions in more detail, please. You can stake multiple times your entire capital within one game in one IPL trading game or similar.

ray mansi wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:28 pm

arb12 wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 5:11 pm

ray mansi wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:15 am

you win without software. impressive. People have always said australia racing is harder.
How many times you try to bet in a cricket game or how many games average in day

That winning horse betfair strategy in this forum over 3 months i seen plus 43 units with longest setback minus 39 units
Do you think its worthwhile. Im not sure because some bet 5 % bankroll, but with this it has to be minimum only 2% so far

Trading software and alert services aren't required at all if you breath the passion of these markets.
Jimmy Quinn at Chelmsford is one model, Franny Norton at Wolverhampton is another, and Frankie Dettori at Santa Anita is quite another.
When it comes to the Great game of Cricket, it is an encyclopaedia. Ask your questions in more detail, please. You can stake multiple times your entire capital within one game in one IPL trading game or similar.

well obvious one is for sure how they are able to win. The cricket market always even if keeping eye on the wickets the odds move so heavily that i simply cannot profit from it. But people dont reveal exactly so i was not gonna ask more precise, but focused on what i have seen has won. 14 full units per month is it normal with horse racing with that kind of drawdown. I feel like stop tracking it. i know people back and lay with cricket, but it beats me how they do it successfully. Maybe horse racing back laying is easier, but i did not figure it out either.

ray mansi wrote: ↑

Sat Feb 03, 2024 11:05 am

@arb12 You are very intelligent with lot of wisdom with that sport. I had same with another one i grew up with. I would like to continue conversation, but dont want to make it public here. Shame the site do not allow private message option

But i think there is some misundertanding about back laying. You say can bet entire capital. It sounds like betting entire bankroll one game. It doesnt make sense. Even if you win its only 0,1 unit. I see those who use betangel win if market moves by one tick. Same like someone else told in here how they win. But with 1-2 small tick movement you dont win manually. Especially with commission. Once i saw wicket in a game and odds still never moved enough to make profitable call. They move too little pre game also. And even if they do its so rare
I dont quite understand how their able and i dont. its not good. People dont even maybe care about sport and dont watch it but still they keep winning and laughing.
I have strategies that have never lost and predicted world cup european championship final winners 100 % since the beginning of history, but it doesnt matter, because it all happens so rare and same is with these odds movements. If i can know what to focus on i can work on from it. I dont think one extra person can kill 1000, 10000 100k , million liquidy market. I dont even have that kind of money. Maybe people and you still use some program to create algorithms. I dont have any program or subscribers somewhere site. Only access i have is pen and paper

ray mansi wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:15 am

AUAvi wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:15 pm

Horse Racing & Cricket are the sports where I'm currently most active in.

I follow 2 jurisdictions in Horse Racing i.e Australia & UK. The racing in UK is extremely competitive and I've noticed that my strategies earn me much more profit in Australian Horse racing compared to UK Horse racing.

Betfair banned accounts from my country in 2019 and I've been forced to use Betting brokers where I can't use software and I can't "lay" horses either.

It took me a while to adjust my betting activities but I've been doing fairly well in the last 18 months or so.

you win without software. impressive. People have always said australia racing is harder.
How many times you try to bet in a cricket game or how many games average in day

That winning horse betfair strategy in this forum over 3 months i seen plus 43 units with longest setback minus 39 units
Do you think its worthwhile. Im not sure because some bet 5 % bankroll, but with this it has to be minimum only 2% so far

AUAvi wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:23 am

ray mansi wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:15 am

AUAvi wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:15 pm

Horse Racing & Cricket are the sports where I'm currently most active in.

I follow 2 jurisdictions in Horse Racing i.e Australia & UK. The racing in UK is extremely competitive and I've noticed that my strategies earn me much more profit in Australian Horse racing compared to UK Horse racing.

Betfair banned accounts from my country in 2019 and I've been forced to use Betting brokers where I can't use software and I can't "lay" horses either.

It took me a while to adjust my betting activities but I've been doing fairly well in the last 18 months or so.

you win without software. impressive. People have always said australia racing is harder.
How many times you try to bet in a cricket game or how many games average in day

That winning horse betfair strategy in this forum over 3 months i seen plus 43 units with longest setback minus 39 units
Do you think its worthwhile. Im not sure because some bet 5 % bankroll, but with this it has to be minimum only 2% so far

I'll respond briefly to these questions now. Maybe at a later time, I can explain in detail.

Aussie racing is far easier than UK racing as a punter. The depth of racing in UK is too high compared to Aussie racing. I've consistently made more profit on Aussie racing so much so that these days, I rarely bet on UK while focusing almost exclusively on Aussie racing. Also, I concentrate so much on Aussie racing that by the time UK racing comes up, I'm down on energy and attention span. Maybe that plays a role in why I don't succeed in UK racing.

I've evolved a lot more when it comes to my Horse racing betting. What I posted there all those years ago, no longer holds true. While I still use those strategies, I've developed my own methods to consistently make $$$$

My stakes range between 20$ to 200$ per bet. I don't follow the % method.

I got the Horse Racing staking method you talked about. It doesn't work for me. It isn't worth it to me.

Coming to Cricket, I only bet on 1 market i.e "Match odds" these days. 80% of my bets are on this market and there's no fixed range when it comes to how many bets I make. I might make 3-4 bets per match or no bet at all.

I have a very good eye for Cricket. It's my favorite sport which I've followed since I was a kid. I've played for my School team too so I've got some practical experience too. IMO, Cricket is the sport where a punter can make the most money on Betfair, even ahead of Football and Tennis.

ray mansi wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 06, 2024 6:06 pm

thanks for the reply. I find this difficult to know when to enter to market

AUAvi wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:17 pm

ray mansi wrote: ↑

Tue Feb 06, 2024 6:06 pm

thanks for the reply. I find this difficult to know when to enter to market

I mean it's very difficult for almost everybody not just you particularly if you haven't followed the sport for years. So, no need to be too harsh on yourself.

For starters, there are 3 formats i.e T20, ODI and Test.

The fall of a wicket, a boundary scored etc has varying effect based on the format. Frankly now I think of it, Cricket has way too many variables more than any other sport for newbies to succeed.

James Ravazzolo wrote: ↑

Sun May 26, 2024 2:11 am

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I am curious about one aspect of the strategy: "My strategy is to back a horse that I believe will have lower odds before the race starts, almost always in short races, and then ...". Why is there "and then" ? If you have some way to determine that the odds for a horse will go down before race time, backing the horse is all that's needed isn't it? If you can beat the Betfair BSP (ie get higher odds than that prior to the race, which is what your strategy is) you will win in the long run. It will have up and down periods, but you'd be guaranteed to profit over time if you can consistently beat the BF BSP. Adding in a Lay aspect doesn't seem necessary (which is the 2nd part of your strategy).

I'd really like to know what happened in the last race, the amounts, the horses, the thought process. I'm in awe of anyone who can make that much in a short period, unless it was a pure 'lucky streak' and they just got upset and closed the account (but how do they justify keeping the winnings ?). ...

As someone who has put in a ton of time (years) studying UK and US horses races, having a database of almost 1,000,000 horse results, and can still barely move the needle in the profit direction, stories like this are fascinating. Good luck, I hope you get some compensation for this.