Arbusers

Hi fellas, I'm interested in how You got into smart betting, did You hear by someone accidentally or maybe someone told You about it directly, were You maybe betting before and tried to find "loophole" or some betting strategies, or maybe You were trying to find way to earn. What's your story I would like to hear/see how we all got here.

I personally "find out" about arbing about 9 years ago. I will never forget that "not interested" moment. One guy, friend of a friend, came to me and my friend and showed us "cool app" and he was amazed like, "bro look, if you place specific amount on each bet you can't lose", my reaction was "cool, but how much can you get from using it?" but I was not very interested in it and he showed only those 1% arbs that You can see for free and he said that we can buy it and it will show arbs with more than 1%. I was dumb kiddo in poor family didn't have for brunch, I think if I came to my parents those days and tried to explain why i need money that they would beat me like crazy .

That was just first part of how I get into it, I don't know where this inspiration comes from tbh. Second time I heard about arbing was 6 years ago or 3 years after I heard about it for the first time but in form "difference in odds". Story is that there was one guy who was repeatedly coming and wining big and he was placing around €150 on single bet and odds were like 25/30/35 (halftime/fulltime), he obviously had information's that usuallyeveryone faking it on social media. The woman that were printing tickets in betting shop was cousin of my sister's best friend's. I never mentioned betting in any conversation with my sister's best friend so chances that this is lie is almost 0%... khm, woman and betting? In the conversation with sister's BFF where she was telling her story was key that guy on the end told her cousin that he is stopping with dirty play and that he will start playing with difference in odds and after I heard that, it triggered switch in my head and started researching.

1 year after that is the first time I tried actually arbing and that was with my friend, but guess what, after we placed our 4 first bets on 2 matches we lost money because on one bookie bet was refunded and other bet is lost, in both matches. After that we withdraw money that left in NETELLER account and stopped immediately because we haven't money to play with, we needed everything we had. I remembered the moment when I was going from school to my friend's house and it's gonna be extremely hard to forget that moment, I was listening to "Tokyo Drift - Teriyaki Boyz [ MUSIC VIDEO ] HD" and imagining myself in supercar telling myself I'm gonna earn decent money from it and I'm gonna enjoy this shitty life one day .

And finally a year ago (2022) I started again but with other "friend", we wasn't very careful in the beginning and lost some money, it wasn't easy period, getting experience losing money and watching everything happening in front of your eyes, pain in other words. That friend wasn't very interested after first few losses and not only he left the business but he did something I would never expect from that person, I gave him login to my "arb service" even he stopped paying it, and I found out he is destroying my odds using limited accounts... He is trying to stab me in the back but he can't even find the sharp side of the knife Imagine getting not a single € in profit and at the same time destroying something what means life to others.

Lessons that I would learn from this in case I didn't experienced it:
1. Always listen, especially when You know You are not the smartest in the room
2. Always believe in yourself, if You never fail You will never know what You need to improve, read carefully, don't panic and stick to the rules you developed through experience
3. Always follow your passions and never ever let someone take your dreams down (IF YOU EVEN DECIDED TO TELL IT TO ANYONE) ESPECIALLY those mf's who think they know everything but never moved from one place in their life or those who never been on the path you are
4. Always be good but never loyal to people in business (and other people )
5. Be careful what and to whom you say because friend today can be your enemy tomorrow or You maybe think someone is your "friend" but it's actually not
5. It's hard to start alone but fuck it, sometimes is needed because we live in a world where humans don't act anymore like they are human beings
6. The less people know about money, love and your happiness, the happier, more chill and more satisfied you will be in life
7. Even the women know almost nothing about betting they can still share with others what they heard

Keep grinding!

Very interesting read, and I m sure there are so many different stories to be told.

As for me, it was some 20 years ago when the idea got into my head. And how did that happen? I will try to keep it short:
I had a friend who was a crony, stuck like a leech to a Greek party. There were elections coming up and the guy was enabled in the campaign of that party. He was very fanatic, only in the way Greeks can be fanatics. So he was dizzying everyone's head with his party and he was declaring his absolute certainty they would win.
But, judging from the sentiment and the gallops, it was a common sense that his party would lose with a big difference. So I asked him to bet 50 euros with me, that his party would win. He accepted the bet.
Even though it was obvious I would be the winner, I started thinking of ways to secure any profit even if my assessment was wrong. So I though placing the exact opposite bet online. The odds the guy gave me was exactly 2. But, after searching online I found the odds in Bwin that I needed to secure the profit. And that was my first bet online.
Guess what, I won the bet with him, and took his 50 euros in cash, and I lost with Bwin, building a nice profile of a loser.
I guess the best payment for me was his face when he handed the 50 euros, but let's not be poisonous now.

So, that was my first arb ever. After that, I started thinking if there is anyway to bring this operation in an industrial level, and the journey started. I was very lucky to get into the game in the golden times. For all younger guys, let me describe the golden times:
1. 500 euros welcome bonus from Pinnacle.
2. 1000 euros welcome bonus from Mansion exchange.
3. Unlimited daily arbs between Bwin and Betoto, 2 bookmakers of the same company.
4. An unlimited StanJames account would make you a millionaire within some months.
On the flip side, I wasn't able to understand the potential of this operation from the very start, and I did not enable the bulk of my savings. When I realised the potential, most of the chances were gone, but still there was a lot of money to be made.

My lessons from all these:
1. Realise the potentials.
2. Take calculated risks.
3. Stay in the game.

I would also like to make a side comment. The first time I heard about BTC was at 16$ in the summer of 2012. Yes, 16 USD.
I rejected the idea because I was thinking inside the box. My thinking process of the time was saying, ''No serious authority will hand over the money printing monopoly. It never happened in human history, it will not happen now''. It took me many years until I started thinking out of the box with BTC. That happened in March 2020, with... you know what.

Very interesting stories being told here.

I was 13yrs old when my father would pressure me to go with him to his factory to learn the trade of water purification and supply. It was rigorous work that took a toll on the body cause you will be holding supply and taking them to trucks etc. As a 13yr old I did not like working with my hands a labour job and was fascinated more in the world of the web, markets and investments. My uncle had a pools bookie shop based on draws in the UK market and I loved watching him work. At 14yyrs old I used the ID of a friend to blow my small savings in high speculative forex trading. Then continued searching for online ways to make money. At 16yrs I had a mental picture of what I need to do with sports betting to make a profit, and i just practiced arbing with paper and pen from pinnacle to 365 to bwin etc. at 17yrs old I made a call to a retiree friend and told him look I found a way to make risk free profits in the betting market and I need funds and that was how it all began. Arbusers since then has always besn a guiding compass morally and technically.

Back then things were so much easier, my bwin account had taken 6 months to get limited

Quite interesting experiences.

In my case it was one night, after being together with my gf at that time we were just geting a nap. Actualy, she was. My brain was to fast in that time. I was taking a master in finance and accounting so I was all over in numbers. At that time I was aware that market is moving, adjustments were slow plus middles options. So that night I just get the puzzle done. When I drove her back home I spent all night confirming sth which was obviuos. Till the down I created in excel surebet calculators for singles and special tables for combos of 2, 3, 4 or even 5 events. There were a huge value in combos all over lokal bookies, some leagues couldnt be placed as singles so I ran combos. Just had to meet the condition that events are starting/finishing in differente time, to have a time to adjust opposite side. My first arb was Belgian soccer top tier. My first middle was Swiss soccer top tier, Bassel played home, I covered o3.5 and u4.5. The match ended 4-0. That middle returned me average national monthly sallary.

Out of serious business for quite time. Personal proffesion and job, familly and kids. At least, trying to keep eye at the market, some light version of the "arbusers" lesson #3.