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In Play Arb Service

Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:19 pm

Hi,
I don't know if I am posting this in the right section so feel free to move it if it belongs elsewhere.
I am just looking to find out if any alert services offer an 'in-play' arb service. I feel such a service would be of great use and I thought with betting 'in-play' bookies bet restrictions might not come as fast. I maybe totally wrong but if anyone can advise it would be appreciated. I know that Oddstorm offer an in-play service but I haven't used it as I want to garner some opinions and made aware of any other services first. Many thanks for your time
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Re: In Play Arb Service

Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:19 pm

forget it - EXPERIENCE (& luck if placing UNDER-bets first due to goals hit in pending time from asian bookies!)
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Re: In Play Arb Service

Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:17 pm

From experience you should know that in live arbing, OVER bet is always placed first and then the UNDER.. So if a goal happens after you have placed the first bet you are in the big profit. Offcourse there are lot of traps in live betting but the profits are bigger, and the limits dont come so fast
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Re: In Play Arb Service

Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:46 am

KenWilber wrote: From experience you should know that in live arbing, OVER bet is always placed first and then the UNDER.. So if a goal happens after you have placed the first bet you are in the big profit. Offcourse there are lot of traps in live betting but the profits are bigger, and the limits dont come so fast
If you really place OVER first, you won't make money (except the occasion when goals in pending time)
In general the asian bookies are OVER and Europeans like bwin BAH, GAmebookers etc. are under

BUT: Asians tend to have pending times which can be up to 2min in worst case - so if you wait till over is accepted your under-odds will drop drastically for sure :(

On the other had of course you are the big winner in case of goal-hit after placing OVER first (and vice-versa a big loss by placing UNDER first)
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Re: In Play Arb Service

Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:04 pm

I think that live arbing is a whole different game than normal arbing, more skill is needed, I have tried it for a short period only.. it wasn't so interesting for me because I like to do some other stuff while I'm on a computer, and when alert from AS popus up, then I hunt for an arb.. and when I finish, I go back to my work. But in live arbing I had to keep my focus all the time during the game, so I quit that.
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Re: In Play Arb Service

Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:50 am

Is anywhere I may go for learning about this live betting? Sorry - newbie to this. How long the account typical it stay unlimited, if betting live betting - if using a (I know, is hypethetical) typical Euro bookie...if making bets with size (300, 500eur)?

have read if bet on the horses is leading to just as fast limits - more fast - as non-live betting, as the bookie he have fewer liquidity than with the football. SO, must be live bets on sport like football, where the lifespan is bigger.

Thanks,
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Re: In Play Arb Service

Thu Oct 04, 2012 6:51 am

Hi aceto,

Unfortunately, I have opinion only for soccer live betting over last two years.

Before two years, playing only soccer live betting within a bookmaker (even major ones like bwin and sporting) does not lead to limits for months.
Today is not so. Last year, especially last few months, they very successfully recognize arbers and limit almost as fast as if you play on regular (future) events.

Still there are bookmakers which are good for live arbing, and overall in-play arbitrage feeling is positive, at least from our users.
If you would like to have personal opinion, please contact OddStorm support for promo in-play subscription.
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Re: In Play Arb Service

Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:56 am

There are a lot of opportunities in live arbing and not just under/over bets, but you need a whole different approach.
Some bookies forget to change some markets during halftime for example:
just a couple days ago i ve placed a bet  of 0.5 under/over during halftime in 6.5 odd meanwhile the real price in betfair was 3.5
and just yesterday a well know bookie from the island was offering at 80th minute on Zenit - Ac Milan 2-3 over 5.5 2.63 when the price at betfair was just 2.24.

but its a lot harder.
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Re: In Play Arb Service

Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:36 pm

MUCHBET wrote:
KenWilber wrote: From experience you should know that in live arbing, OVER bet is always placed first and then the UNDER.. So if a goal happens after you have placed the first bet you are in the big profit. Offcourse there are lot of traps in live betting but the profits are bigger, and the limits dont come so fast
If you really place OVER first, you won't make money (except the occasion when goals in pending time)
In general the asian bookies are OVER and Europeans like bwin BAH, GAmebookers etc. are under

BUT: Asians tend to have pending times which can be up to 2min in worst case - so if you wait till over is accepted your under-odds will drop drastically for sure :(

On the other had of course you are the big winner in case of goal-hit after placing OVER first (and vice-versa a big loss by placing UNDER first)
MUCHBET has said all you need to know about live-betting arbitragge .
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Re: In Play Arb Service

Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:37 pm

KenWilber wrote: From experience you should know that in live arbing, OVER bet is always placed first and then the UNDER.. So if a goal happens after you have placed the first bet you are in the big profit. Offcourse there are lot of traps in live betting but the profits are bigger, and the limits dont come so fast
It's obvious you have no experience at live arbing.You are totally wrong
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Re: In Play Arb Service

Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:41 pm

@Joker

and just yesterday a well know bookie from the island was offering at 80th minute on Zenit - Ac Milan 2-3 over 5.5 2.63 when the price at betfair was just 2.24.


Could you explain me why the odd is wrong ? Always there is a difference on odds . If you take a look comparing asians with europeans ,you will figure out that after 75th minute ,the over at asians is always(most of the cases) 0.20 -0.40 higher than the over at europeans
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Re: In Play Arb Service

Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:25 pm

fnatic91 wrote: @Joker

and just yesterday a well know bookie from the island was offering at 80th minute on Zenit - Ac Milan 2-3 over 5.5 2.63 when the price at betfair was just 2.24.


Could you explain me why the odd is wrong ? Always there is a difference on odds . If you take a look comparing asians with europeans ,you will figure out that after 75th minute ,the over at asians is always(most of the cases) 0.20 -0.40 higher than the over at europeans
of course there is always a difference between odds,otherwise no money for us. you can find a lots of arbs between soft bookies and asians but rarely between a softbookie and betfair. they give the majority of their bets to traders.

2.63 and 2.24 on betfair is an 11% arb.pretty cool because when you place the bet on the softbookie you dont risk your money if one of the team scores.
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Re: In Play Arb Service

Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:33 pm

Thanks Oddstorm an 'Joker9424

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