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Hello i would like to share ideas with some live arber but thru pm because i don't think is ok for everybody to know and it is very risky.Please pm if you are interested.

May I ask what you mean "Live arbing"?

ArberPro wrote: Hello i would like to share ideas with some live arber but thru pm because i don't think is ok for everybody to know and it is very risky.Please pm if you are interested.

If you do it openly, others will join and help you even more.

find slow IBC clones.

mizerez wrote: find slow IBC clones.

Such as???

Could someone recomend other bookies for live arbing i am playing at bet at home bet365 bwin sportingbet unibet tried stanjames but the limits are just to low

It depends on what you want to do with these bookmakers.
Bwin and Willhill will offer some great chances for arbing.

Live arbing is a high risk man. The good point is that you can find live arbs with just asians + pinnacle + betfair, but keep in mind that it is a higher risk than normal arbs.
I advice you to stay away of over/under market, since you need to do the "under" leg first (to get odds moving on your favor). One goal in the time between bets and you lose the profit of 20 arbs. I do prefer the asian handicap markets, at least if a goal is scored in the time between bets, this goal could be in your favor and in the long run you must be safe. With some experience you can find 2- 3% arbs between asians+pinnacle+betfair with a risk time of 30 seconds.
positive points: No limits (at least never less than 300-400 Euros per bet), just great and reliable bookmakers, great arbs (2-3% nowadays are very desirable) and high liquidy (your money will be locked for 90 minutes or less).
negative ones: Risk of a goal or red card between bets turn your 2-3% profitable arb into a 25-35% of loss. It's important to say that if you arb on under/over marketings, a goal is always a loss, but in AH arbs a goal should mean 25-30% of profit. And the worst point of live arbs to me: the  time that you need to spend per day, at least 10-15 minutes per game (after a lot of study about odds movement).
I am posting just by my experience with under and over and AH live arbs, of course there are a lot of arbers out there making another kind of live arbs. Personally i see live arbs like a safe haven, the day that arbs and bonus abuse didn't work anymore, that's what i will do.
Sorry for the poor language by the way.

Is there a service for showing live arbs or you have to do everything in your mind?

Live arbing is harder than normal arbing i dont understand how you say you dont get limited i have had many accounts limited

Guys how do you approach over/under live arbs? Taking over first from my experience doesnt work, as 99% of my bets are over in sharp, under in soft and by the time the sharp book would accept the bet, the arb would be gone. Other way around losses will definitily happen (that feeling when one goal blows away all your saturday profit...hmmm).

So, how do you overcome this problem? Do you avoid such arbs completely? Do you take only high % arbs and hope that in the long run you will be in profit? Or do you really bet over first?

if you bet over first and a goal is scored, you will get an even better arb.

Rufus wrote: Guys how do you approach over/under live arbs? Taking over first from my experience doesnt work, as 99% of my bets are over in sharp, under in soft and by the time the sharp book would accept the bet, the arb would be gone. Other way around losses will definitily happen (that feeling when one goal blows away all your saturday profit...hmmm).

So, how do you overcome this problem? Do you avoid such arbs completely? Do you take only high % arbs and hope that in the long run you will be in profit? Or do you really bet over first?

You will never make any profit if you bet over first , you have said yourself the reason.
Bet under firstly and once it is accepted , bet over.Like you said , in most of the cases (80-90%) over is placed at asians , so you will have your bet pending.A goal might be scored and you will have big losses.No matter , you will have profits in long term , i assure you.
Just don't place arbs which gives you less than 5% of your "under" stake.If you place 100 EUR on under at europeans , it means that you must place only arbs which give you more than 5 EUR.This way , you need only 20 arbs to recover the losses from " 1 goal"

fnatic91 wrote:

Rufus wrote: Guys how do you approach over/under live arbs? Taking over first from my experience doesnt work, as 99% of my bets are over in sharp, under in soft and by the time the sharp book would accept the bet, the arb would be gone. Other way around losses will definitily happen (that feeling when one goal blows away all your saturday profit...hmmm).

So, how do you overcome this problem? Do you avoid such arbs completely? Do you take only high % arbs and hope that in the long run you will be in profit? Or do you really bet over first?

You will never make any profit if you bet over first , you have said yourself the reason.
Bet under firstly and once it is accepted , bet over.Like you said , in most of the cases (80-90%) over is placed at asians , so you will have your bet pending.A goal might be scored and you will have big losses.No matter , you will have profits in long term , i assure you.
Just don't place arbs which gives you less than 5% of your "under" stake.If you place 100 EUR on under at europeans , it means that you must place only arbs which give you more than 5 EUR.This way , you need only 20 arbs to recover the losses from " 1 goal"

So,  by your experience, goals happen less than 1/20?

for the 30(might even less) sec you need after you first bet is accepted probably is less than 1/20