New thoughts came into my head...
How do you guys look for arb but manually, do you look in the alert service for where the value is, then go to your bookie, which the alert service doesn't have, and see if there is an arb opportunity or do you have some other manual arbing strategy?
Manual arbing
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If I tell you what is my manual strategy I would have to quit for good Guess no one who arb/trade succesfully other way than using services would share anything here as it cuts costs a lot/open you loads of new opportunities arb services doesnt cover. As usual, be creative. Nothing is for free, most valuable things you just have to discover yourself, there is no other way Im afraid.
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Yeah I know, I mean I'm aware of it, I have my own "tips and tricks" but I'm keeping it for myself, I asked for strategies that are people ready to speak about I definitely don't expect deep secrets to be revealed in this thread, just to get some ideas for better creativity, if You get what I mean.Grant wrote: ↑Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:48 pmIf I tell you what is my manual strategy I would have to quit for good Guess no one who arb/trade succesfully other way than using services would share anything here as it cuts costs a lot/open you loads of new opportunities arb services doesnt cover. As usual, be creative. Nothing is for free, most valuable things you just have to discover yourself, there is no other way Im afraid.
When You know how it works then You should know how to break it.
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grant im not sure what strategy it is that if you share you must quit. it doesnt sound sport strategy
People should work together here in my opinion to win. Situation is complicated enough, but secretely everyone doing alone hiding is simply ignorance
People should work together here in my opinion to win. Situation is complicated enough, but secretely everyone doing alone hiding is simply ignorance
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Rotfl. I dont care if anyone call me ignorant or whatever. How many winning (long run) strategy is revealed here? How many smart people who make decent money you know that shared their work? Money likes silence. You must be betting since few weeks if you dont know that considering extreme low pre-ko limits any strategy revealed means its gonna be useless within a week. It takes me months to find another niche or a way how to deal with obstacles bookies throw day after day and someone comes here expecting money printing tool will be delivered on a silver plate. What did you share so I can make decent money? Nothing. Just laughin, anyone here with a tool to constantly make money sharing with anyone, yeah sure, that person would be sitting in a room praying no one finds out not even thinking about sharing anything.
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You do not tell the fish at the pokertable to fold either
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I'm just starting out aswell. So I know It is complicated and hard..... But you have to understand noone will give away their edge, especially if doing so it actually might cause them not to have an edge anymore.
You do not tell the fish at the pokertable to fold either
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I brought out example of my winning strategy. I do not have any issue with it and there is zcode community for example where sport bettors share their winning picks to win. Teamwork is all what life is about.
We all do hard work doesnt matter win or loose. Every day is easy you know what to do but do make system to win is more harder so we all do same amount of work. Helping others is actually more meaningful also as it impacts life. Most people live only for their own entertainment which is limited way of being. Im not asking you to reveal it, but mentioning some important aspects
If i understand more better your reasons i might understand why its better to not mention anything, but without being aware its not possible to do anything
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How Sharing strategies wont get people get edge anymore. Everyone use individually different betting markets with their unique account so how it limits each individual. Main thing is the strategy which works.Grant wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:20 amRotfl. I dont care if anyone call me ignorant or whatever. How many winning (long run) strategy is revealed here? How many smart people who make decent money you know that shared their work? Money likes silence. You must be betting since few weeks if you dont know that considering extreme low pre-ko limits any strategy revealed means its gonna be useless within a week. It takes me months to find another niche or a way how to deal with obstacles bookies throw day after day and someone comes here expecting money printing tool will be delivered on a silver plate. What did you share so I can make decent money? Nothing. Just laughin, anyone here with a tool to constantly make money sharing with anyone, yeah sure, that person would be sitting in a room praying no one finds out not even thinking about sharing anything.
I brought out example of my winning strategy. I do not have any issue with it and there is zcode community for example where sport bettors share their winning picks to win. Teamwork is all what life is about.
We all do hard work doesnt matter win or loose. Every day is easy you know what to do but do make system to win is more harder so we all do same amount of work. Helping others is actually more meaningful also as it impacts life. Most people live only for their own entertainment which is limited way of being. Im not asking you to reveal it, but mentioning some important aspects
If i understand more better your reasons i might understand why its better to not mention anything, but without being aware its not possible to do anything
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Im in this business 10 yrs now. Loads of new people join here and first what they do is complain others dont want to share. They simply dont understand they won't get anywhere by asking, they need to search themselves and not 10 or even 100 hrs but thousands of hours hard work to make it pay. I had to work 2 years 10 hrs a day, day after day to get to the point where Im totally independent, I dont need any tools, develop them myself but started from absolutely rookie who used to bet on Man Utd cause I thought they wiill win.
No worries I will deliver you +EV method right now but its like feeding homeless people instead of giving them opportunity to work. Next day they will come for more food instead of looking for it themselves. I guarantee that after a week of showing that to the forum you will be exactly at the same point as you are now cause it wont work anymore.
No worries I will deliver you +EV method right now but its like feeding homeless people instead of giving them opportunity to work. Next day they will come for more food instead of looking for it themselves. I guarantee that after a week of showing that to the forum you will be exactly at the same point as you are now cause it wont work anymore.
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And no if your sensible and know first step what to do you wont go back to that person . its a same story so many experts are telling teach a man a fish bla bla bla. Not it isnt like this. If you know the path you know what to do yourself. And ofcourse its better to do yourself alone. These are 2 completely different dimensions. Most people brain maybe doesnt work like this do get first working step started. Only small push into right direction is needed. This is what this topic creator also asked politely. This +ev method you shared is not helping at all. Only person who has shared winning strategy is crypto data here.
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first of all no i dont complain. yes its a problem for many they wont do hard work and they dont deserve attention, but if you have invested even more years in it or are ready its a different matter.Grant wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 12:46 pmIm in this business 10 yrs now. Loads of new people join here and first what they do is complain others dont want to share. They simply dont understand they won't get anywhere by asking, they need to search themselves and not 10 or even 100 hrs but thousands of hours hard work to make it pay. I had to work 2 years 10 hrs a day, day after day to get to the point where Im totally independent, I dont need any tools, develop them myself but started from absolutely rookie who used to bet on Man Utd cause I thought they wiill win.
No worries I will deliver you +EV method right now but its like feeding homeless people instead of giving them opportunity to work. Next day they will come for more food instead of looking for it themselves. I guarantee that after a week of showing that to the forum you will be exactly at the same point as you are now cause it wont work anymore.
And no if your sensible and know first step what to do you wont go back to that person . its a same story so many experts are telling teach a man a fish bla bla bla. Not it isnt like this. If you know the path you know what to do yourself. And ofcourse its better to do yourself alone. These are 2 completely different dimensions. Most people brain maybe doesnt work like this do get first working step started. Only small push into right direction is needed. This is what this topic creator also asked politely. This +ev method you shared is not helping at all. Only person who has shared winning strategy is crypto data here.
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And why did Crypto data share it?
Why dont you call any big bussiness and ask for their secret formula, code or whatever…
Your approach is so flawed tbh…. Noone needs to share anything with you and only someone actually dumb would share their edge that earns their living..
Why dont you call any big bussiness and ask for their secret formula, code or whatever…
Your approach is so flawed tbh…. Noone needs to share anything with you and only someone actually dumb would share their edge that earns their living..
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crypto data shared, because hes a great man with good creative intentions.
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im not asking anything and we work together against bookmakers . They ofcourse dont tell as their opposide team. Judgements are not the place in forum reply. aleale and others better not to reply if your unable to even tell how my statement is flawed and if something useful is not being said as for example how edge is being cut by something or something else about what was asked in this topic by the creator.I'mNotVerySmart wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:39 pmAnd why did Crypto data share it?
Why dont you call any big bussiness and ask for their secret formula, code or whatever…
Your approach is so flawed tbh…. Noone needs to share anything with you and only someone actually dumb would share their edge that earns their living..
crypto data shared, because hes a great man with good creative intentions.
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@ray, I'm sorry, my intention was not to kidding you but, trust me, this business is not for everyone who want to partecipate.
ODDS DROP.
Crypto shared his system because he is not using it anymore.
He is a great man for sure but I don't think he would have shared it while he was still using it.
ODDS DROP.
Crypto shared his system because he is not using it anymore.
He is a great man for sure but I don't think he would have shared it while he was still using it.
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So...please...ignore me, thanks.
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And, overall, I was not referring to you, I had simply joked with INVM about his nick.I'mNotVerySmart wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:39 pmWhy dont you call any big bussiness and ask for their secret formula, code or whatever…
only someone actually dumb would share their edge that earns their living..
So...please...ignore me, thanks.
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Either you do not understand what you are asking or you are very spoiled.
Because an edge has a nature of being secret, If everyone knew about this secret... there no longer would be an edge. If Grant or whoever else on this forum just publicly posted their edges. They would in matter of days or maybe even hours not be edges anymore. So it's a good thing everyone does not share
"crypto data shared, because hes a great man with good creative intentions."
I am sure crypto is a great man and infact very creative and hopefully mostly has good intentions. And It was very nice of him to share.
But that is not the reason he shared... It even says so In his first post if you read it.
Now If you were to ask for his edge in crypto or whatever he is doing now. I'm sure he just like Grant or anyone else on this forum with an actual edge... would not tell you.
Their seem to be an abundance of arbs using many different services... from what I understand the problem is being limited.
Maybe you should work on your own edge that being how not get limited. And when you do find it, share it with me. Just not publicly
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I am somewhere inbetween NotVerySmart and NotVeryDumb
No judgement at all. I will tell you how your statement is flawed.ray mansi wrote:im not asking anything and we work together against bookmakers . They ofcourse dont tell as their opposide team. Judgements are not the place in forum reply. aleale and others better not to reply if your unable to even tell how my statement is flawed and if something useful is not being said as for example how edge is being cut by something or something else about what was asked in this topic by the creator.I'mNotVerySmart wrote: ↑Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:39 pmAnd why did Crypto data share it?
Why dont you call any big bussiness and ask for their secret formula, code or whatever…
Your approach is so flawed tbh…. Noone needs to share anything with you and only someone actually dumb would share their edge that earns their living..
crypto data shared, because hes a great man with good creative intentions.
Either you do not understand what you are asking or you are very spoiled.
Because an edge has a nature of being secret, If everyone knew about this secret... there no longer would be an edge. If Grant or whoever else on this forum just publicly posted their edges. They would in matter of days or maybe even hours not be edges anymore. So it's a good thing everyone does not share
"crypto data shared, because hes a great man with good creative intentions."
I am sure crypto is a great man and infact very creative and hopefully mostly has good intentions. And It was very nice of him to share.
But that is not the reason he shared... It even says so In his first post if you read it.
Now If you were to ask for his edge in crypto or whatever he is doing now. I'm sure he just like Grant or anyone else on this forum with an actual edge... would not tell you.
Their seem to be an abundance of arbs using many different services... from what I understand the problem is being limited.
Maybe you should work on your own edge that being how not get limited. And when you do find it, share it with me. Just not publicly