Arbusers

i thought i would create a post to see if anyone is feeling the same way that i am. 10 years deep into the game. 3 years straight without much of a break and mentally i am shot.

One solution could be adding one hour of sport a day (walking, running, swimming), you will get physical and mental benefits and probably you'll maintain the same gain average.
Since I've been into the game same time as you (let's say 2010-2011, but only the first 3-4 years without a break) I can easily understand the way you feel.

Like everything else you need to maintain a healthy balance between work/spare time and so on.

Personally, even though I would make more money betting full time, I only do it 10/15 hour a week and keep a normally job on the side which gives me a lot of value with both the social and the bigger purpose aspect.

Other than that I always lock everything down when I have holidays (occasionally longer travels) and don't look at betting at all. That gives me new energi when I come back and want to "smash" the bookies.

I think it is important to take some time off when you feel like you do.

sadedu95 wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 06, 2023 1:16 am

i thought i would create a post to see if anyone is feeling the same way that i am. 10 years deep into the game. 3 years straight without much of a break and mentally i am shot.

I felt the same way when I was working in my off line job while doing arbitrage online. My offline job was requesting a minimum 60 hours weekly, so every free minute was dedicated to arbitrage. Back in these days there were no automations at all, every operation needed me to press the enter button. Things became much better when I left my offline job.

I believe there is no reason working 24/7. The market is giving you adequate leave times and you don't have to chase the last cent under the table. After all, after these 10 active years, you can consider your self as wealthy enough for long vacations. For example, June/July are always relaxed, and only 5-10 days in July would be extra profitable. January, beginning of February you could also take a quick leave time.

But in the end, you could take your leave time whenever you feel too.

Meanwhile, when you guys feel a burn out, you could always have a Greekend, take your self directly from the airport to a fish tavern with Aegean See fishes cooked in the Greek way, and you could detox like this in a way you could never imagine before.

Thanks for the response. So come mid may i am looking to take my first break in forever. Trying to figure out exactly what to do. Thinking about snowboarding and then maybe some travel are around south america.

Yes mate, we are all in the same boat, we need to find moderation, I'm the first to have problems finding it ha ha, there is a saying here in Italy, a greedy hen rips the crop, let's repeat it often . And as always wise are the words of Mr Arbuser with whom I agree on everything, especially on the indicated periods of the year. But regardless of the time of year and the traffic, it takes the strength to disconnect without guilt when your head has been repeating it for some time now.

sadedu95 wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 06, 2023 1:16 am

i thought i would create a post to see if anyone is feeling the same way that i am. 10 years deep into the game. 3 years straight without much of a break and mentally i am shot.

sadedu95 wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 06, 2023 2:46 pm

Thanks for the response. So come mid may i am looking to take my first break in forever. Trying to figure out exactly what to do. Thinking about snowboarding and then maybe some travel are around south america.

@ Sadedu95,

Everything mentioned in the previous posts and replies in this thread by other members is very true, just choose the right advice for your nature and personality.
The problem, you've mentioned, hypothetically could turn into a blessing for you. Why?

My point of view on your case.
First, everyone is different. I'm referring to the mental model, the psychological type, the physics, energy level, stress resilience, the tendency to experiment or routine comfort, and so forth.
Second, the above characteristics are not constant all the time, they can be quite different. Imagine the different hypothetical states:
- When someone is systematically overwhelmed/overloaded with work activities;
- Recovering after flu;
- During a vivid party, among loved ones;
- A leisurely lonely walk to the lake, with her/his thoughts only.
- Calmness / Happiness levels - particularly and in general;
- Stress / Distress levels - particularly and in general;
And many other different cases.

Try the best activity for your current condition. Total relaxation for a certain period or something like that.
During this time, discover your answer to the question, why does your favorite activity cause you these stress and exhaustion levels? You'll probably be surprised by the answer if you don't mute it.
Then find the optimal Work/Rest ratio for your Personality.
And a few buzzing questions for your Mind, aimed at helping you a lot on a deeper level: Is that activity your passionate hobby and joyride, or simply a profitable activity, or both? Would you stop for a little high-profit trading just to watch and feel the joy of the game instead of chasing the profit?

The following text is valid only if you're in perfect health status. Otherwise, don't do this!
Could you sometimes try gradually to extend the "working day" a little by "brainstorming and mind mapping"-similar methods, applied to your activities, maintaining your energy level and freshness and not interrupting your personal activities at all? Some examples causing an extended "working day" due to time zones: NBA, NCAAB, NFL, South American Soccer and Basketball, European Soccer, Volleyball, EuroLeague Basketball, UK Horses, Vast and Endless Asian games - Soccer, Basketball, Cricket, Australian Horses and so on. Naturally, that list is hypothetical and depends only on your evolving experience.

Finally, among the amazing effects, the following are sometimes seen:
- You can take a break from business for a long time at any time you want, without any pressure and possibly reduced fatigue.
- Very developed selectivity, whether and when it is worth it to participate in any market (again reduced fatigue);
- Due to long-time observation, the probable ability to read the game for no time with an appropriate percentage of accuracy.
- A possible ability to combine the practice of this activity with other aspects of your social and daily life, with less or no interference effect, when needed. You can practically touch a small display once or twice during a long family party if needed. All your main attention is directed to the people around you, no worries at all.
- After an extended and prolonged task, in sleep mode, the brain sometimes continues to create new Stats items, continues to analyze the fundamentals, etc. The most important thing here is to remember that when you wake up.

Wishing you good luck!

I can relate to what you're saying. A lot of what we do is very repetitive and it is sometimes difficult to wake up feeling energised and enthusiastic.

Others have mentioned taking a holiday which sounds like a great idea. But the problem is that after the holiday you still have to go back to your office and continue pushing the same boulder up a familiar hill. We're all different, but for me personally, to stay energised I need to have a new project on the horizon. I need to be learning new things rather than just doing what I've always done. My suggestion is to try and find the time to study and test out new ideas regularly. And if you just don't have the time, then try to figure out ways to optimise or delegate some of your workload in a way that gives you room to extend your gambling knowledge into new areas.

This is easier said than done and we must be careful to not allow these new projects to become opportunity costs. Initially they usually will be since you can't immediately print money when you're approaching an area you're unfamiliar with. And care must be taken to disallow research not to become procrastination. You still have to keep doing what you've always done to make money, but allocate a minority of your time to the research and creation of something new. If I can spend at least some of the day pushing the boundaries of my limited knowledge in a way that is productive, I wake up looking forward to that day. If you're always just doing what you know works but are operating too snugly within your comfort zone, then even if what you do works, burnout becomes a problem.