3 years ago I have been accused of fund passing by both orbit exchange and bia. They stolen all my money (close to 10k euro which ~8k was my money and ~2k was gained from error)
Nobody cares I just catched somebody big error which everybody could catch with esports filter on in betburger. Money are gone.
Hope your story will finish with better ending @pkpunter
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Re: Orbit account suspended
Thank you both for the support. no, this is certainly not my case, if I had been accused of passing funds this would have happened sooner, I was told by those who are more expert than me on these things that they are definitely quick and expert in noticing this type of fraud and my funds would have already been confiscated; I think they are rightly very strict and efficient on this.
Also sorry about your episode ; which I believe can unfortunately happen even simply with a betburger report in a market that is too little liquid or too liquid for the small market it is. Risks of the profession that sometimes you pay a high price to know and then avoid, which is very unpleasant and unfair when you are in good faith.
Orbit definitely found something else they don't like in my account, what??? Ahh this is not known, it's an international secret!!! That no one has the right to know, not me, not BIA, not my agent, not the community that meets here and that remains in a state of uncertainty and fear of using a tool that for many who practice this crazy job is 'very useful.
We'll see, it seems that this story, unfortunately for everyone, except for Orbit who keeps my money for no official reason, should have further chapters.
I will continue to tell and update the community in the most transparent way possible, simply telling the truth about what happens, I apologize even if sometimes my tone has been raised but you can imagine how frustrating it can be at times.
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Also sorry about your episode ; which I believe can unfortunately happen even simply with a betburger report in a market that is too little liquid or too liquid for the small market it is. Risks of the profession that sometimes you pay a high price to know and then avoid, which is very unpleasant and unfair when you are in good faith.
Orbit definitely found something else they don't like in my account, what??? Ahh this is not known, it's an international secret!!! That no one has the right to know, not me, not BIA, not my agent, not the community that meets here and that remains in a state of uncertainty and fear of using a tool that for many who practice this crazy job is 'very useful.
We'll see, it seems that this story, unfortunately for everyone, except for Orbit who keeps my money for no official reason, should have further chapters.
I will continue to tell and update the community in the most transparent way possible, simply telling the truth about what happens, I apologize even if sometimes my tone has been raised but you can imagine how frustrating it can be at times.
Greetings
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We are watching closely.
Re: Orbit account suspended
pkpunter wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:19 ama small update, nothing has changed for my Orbit account but I feel it is necessary to clean up BIA's image in all of this. I confirm, they are doing everything possible in their power for a prompt and transparent resolution of the issue. Not Orbit who seems to remain a silent ghost with everyone.
We are watching closely.
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Scary situation tbh. The most widely known Betfair white-label resorting to these sort of tactics is unacceptable.
Having said that, I've decided to try this out with my own hands i.e Orbit on BIA.
I'm planning to wager a huge amount of money i.e six figures turnover in the month of February using tactics I've used for a few years on other Betfair white-labels with no problems whatsoever.
If my account runs into problem with Orbit on BIA on account of making a decent profit, it'd be completely clear to me where the issue lies.
Having said that, I've decided to try this out with my own hands i.e Orbit on BIA.
I'm planning to wager a huge amount of money i.e six figures turnover in the month of February using tactics I've used for a few years on other Betfair white-labels with no problems whatsoever.
If my account runs into problem with Orbit on BIA on account of making a decent profit, it'd be completely clear to me where the issue lies.
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Don't do that, better invest elsewhere. Your market-reading competency should put the financial gain received from your own work into your own pocket, not into the crooks' one.
Additionally, they may salute your turnover and will likely bait you for a long time before stealing your funds.
Re: Orbit account suspended
AUAvi wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:57 pmScary situation tbh. The most widely known Betfair white-label resorting to these sort of tactics is unacceptable.
Having said that, I've decided to try this out with my own hands i.e Orbit on BIA.
I'm planning to wager a huge amount of money i.e six figures turnover in the month of February using tactics I've used for a few years on other Betfair white-labels with no problems whatsoever.
If my account runs into problem with Orbit on BIA on account of making a decent profit, it'd be completely clear to me where the issue lies.
Don't do that, better invest elsewhere. Your market-reading competency should put the financial gain received from your own work into your own pocket, not into the crooks' one.
Additionally, they may salute your turnover and will likely bait you for a long time before stealing your funds.
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If you read carefully the case as presented by the OP you will find exactly where the problem is.
In my view, there is a niche market with a lot of juice that according to Betfair and Orbit should not be shared with 3rd parties.
Still it is not clear to me if the problem originates from Orbit or Betfair.
Re: Orbit account suspended
AUAvi wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 2:57 pmScary situation tbh. The most widely known Betfair white-label resorting to these sort of tactics is unacceptable.
Having said that, I've decided to try this out with my own hands i.e Orbit on BIA.
I'm planning to wager a huge amount of money i.e six figures turnover in the month of February using tactics I've used for a few years on other Betfair white-labels with no problems whatsoever.
If my account runs into problem with Orbit on BIA on account of making a decent profit, it'd be completely clear to me where the issue lies.
If you read carefully the case as presented by the OP you will find exactly where the problem is.
In my view, there is a niche market with a lot of juice that according to Betfair and Orbit should not be shared with 3rd parties.
Still it is not clear to me if the problem originates from Orbit or Betfair.
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Re: Orbit account suspended
Hi all ,
yesterday I had my ORBIT account suspended as well. The reason ? I had a winner ( 8K profit) in Pebble Beach golf tournament . For those that are not aware , it is a very prestigious PGA tour tournament with elite golf players . 19 out of top 20 golf players in world rankings participated in this tournament. Wyndham Clark , the winner , number 6 currently.
So , what's the '' catch '' in this case ? Well I can only make assumptions here but an ''abnormal '' incident took place in this tournament.
Due to bad weather conditions the 4th and final round of this tournament never took place as it was supposed to be in sunday. It was decided to be postponed for Monday morning ( official announcement link here : https://twitter.com/PGATOUR/status/1754328112551096690 ) .
Monday came and same bad weather conditions remained. So PGA tour decided that no more golf would be played and therefore according to the pga tour regulations the winner would be the golfer that was in lead at the end of round 3 ( official announcement link here : https://twitter.com/PGATOUR/status/1754328110491639944 ).
So every bookie that I am aware of honored the winner bets and paid normally for Wyndham Clark as tournament winner , including ORBIT .
Next day I try to place some bets and I get the message that my account has been suspended. I immediately contacted betinasia support and this is what I got back
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Thank you for reaching out to BetInAsia
Please be well informed that your Orbit Exchange account is temporarily disabled due to certain golf markets being checked for legitimacy. This is a regular procedure led by the respective bookie, so rest assured that once we receive an update on this matter we will reach out to you immediately.
We truly appreciate your cooperation and understanding throughout the whole process. We are at your disposal if you have any other questions or concerns.
Kind regards ''
As I am aware of ORBIT's recent shady (to say the least) tactics throughout this topic , I replied back that this is an official pga tour regulation when such circumstances arise ,that this is a very prestigious golf tournament etc . etc. and I got back this
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Thank you for your reply.
We kindly ask you to take into consideration that a subject of review by the related department is the event itself and not your betting activity. Therefore, you should not have any worries regarding your Orbit Exchange account.
As notified in the previous correspondence, we will contact you immediately once the check-up comes to an end. Until then, we are counting on your prompt patience.
Thank you for your cooperation so far.
Kind regards ''
So here I am now with my account suspended , waiting for the ''check-up '' to complete .
Judging from other members' cases , I guess I am gonna have to wait for ages as well , as they try to find a ''loophole '' in their golf betting rules or make a new one so that they not pay this bet and void it instead . Cant think of anything else.
For time being , ORBIT's golf betting rules are pretty clear as shown in the screenshot. ( My bet was placed 3 days prior to the start of the tournament )
yesterday I had my ORBIT account suspended as well. The reason ? I had a winner ( 8K profit) in Pebble Beach golf tournament . For those that are not aware , it is a very prestigious PGA tour tournament with elite golf players . 19 out of top 20 golf players in world rankings participated in this tournament. Wyndham Clark , the winner , number 6 currently.
So , what's the '' catch '' in this case ? Well I can only make assumptions here but an ''abnormal '' incident took place in this tournament.
Due to bad weather conditions the 4th and final round of this tournament never took place as it was supposed to be in sunday. It was decided to be postponed for Monday morning ( official announcement link here : https://twitter.com/PGATOUR/status/1754328112551096690 ) .
Monday came and same bad weather conditions remained. So PGA tour decided that no more golf would be played and therefore according to the pga tour regulations the winner would be the golfer that was in lead at the end of round 3 ( official announcement link here : https://twitter.com/PGATOUR/status/1754328110491639944 ).
So every bookie that I am aware of honored the winner bets and paid normally for Wyndham Clark as tournament winner , including ORBIT .
Next day I try to place some bets and I get the message that my account has been suspended. I immediately contacted betinasia support and this is what I got back
''
Thank you for reaching out to BetInAsia
Please be well informed that your Orbit Exchange account is temporarily disabled due to certain golf markets being checked for legitimacy. This is a regular procedure led by the respective bookie, so rest assured that once we receive an update on this matter we will reach out to you immediately.
We truly appreciate your cooperation and understanding throughout the whole process. We are at your disposal if you have any other questions or concerns.
Kind regards ''
As I am aware of ORBIT's recent shady (to say the least) tactics throughout this topic , I replied back that this is an official pga tour regulation when such circumstances arise ,that this is a very prestigious golf tournament etc . etc. and I got back this
''
Thank you for your reply.
We kindly ask you to take into consideration that a subject of review by the related department is the event itself and not your betting activity. Therefore, you should not have any worries regarding your Orbit Exchange account.
As notified in the previous correspondence, we will contact you immediately once the check-up comes to an end. Until then, we are counting on your prompt patience.
Thank you for your cooperation so far.
Kind regards ''
So here I am now with my account suspended , waiting for the ''check-up '' to complete .
Judging from other members' cases , I guess I am gonna have to wait for ages as well , as they try to find a ''loophole '' in their golf betting rules or make a new one so that they not pay this bet and void it instead . Cant think of anything else.
For time being , ORBIT's golf betting rules are pretty clear as shown in the screenshot. ( My bet was placed 3 days prior to the start of the tournament )
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So, safe to assume that out of Betfair ------> Orbit -------> BIA, the fault lies solely with either Orbit or BIA.
Re: Orbit account suspended
Betfair doesn't pull stuff like this.ProHat wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 1:35 pmHi all ,
yesterday I had my ORBIT account suspended as well. The reason ? I had a winner ( 8K profit) in Pebble Beach golf tournament . For those that are not aware , it is a very prestigious PGA tour tournament with elite golf players . 19 out of top 20 golf players in world rankings participated in this tournament. Wyndham Clark , the winner , number 6 currently.
So , what's the '' catch '' in this case ? Well I can only make assumptions here but an ''abnormal '' incident took place in this tournament.
Due to bad weather conditions the 4th and final round of this tournament never took place as it was supposed to be in sunday. It was decided to be postponed for Monday morning ( official announcement link here : https://twitter.com/PGATOUR/status/1754328112551096690 ) .
Monday came and same bad weather conditions remained. So PGA tour decided that no more golf would be played and therefore according to the pga tour regulations the winner would be the golfer that was in lead at the end of round 3 ( official announcement link here : https://twitter.com/PGATOUR/status/1754328110491639944 ).
So every bookie that I am aware of honored the winner bets and paid normally for Wyndham Clark as tournament winner , including ORBIT .
Next day I try to place some bets and I get the message that my account has been suspended. I immediately contacted betinasia support and this is what I got back
''
Thank you for reaching out to BetInAsia
Please be well informed that your Orbit Exchange account is temporarily disabled due to certain golf markets being checked for legitimacy. This is a regular procedure led by the respective bookie, so rest assured that once we receive an update on this matter we will reach out to you immediately.
We truly appreciate your cooperation and understanding throughout the whole process. We are at your disposal if you have any other questions or concerns.
Kind regards ''
As I am aware of ORBIT's recent shady (to say the least) tactics throughout this topic , I replied back that this is an official pga tour regulation when such circumstances arise ,that this is a very prestigious golf tournament etc . etc. and I got back this
''
Thank you for your reply.
We kindly ask you to take into consideration that a subject of review by the related department is the event itself and not your betting activity. Therefore, you should not have any worries regarding your Orbit Exchange account.
As notified in the previous correspondence, we will contact you immediately once the check-up comes to an end. Until then, we are counting on your prompt patience.
Thank you for your cooperation so far.
Kind regards ''
So here I am now with my account suspended , waiting for the ''check-up '' to complete .
Judging from other members' cases , I guess I am gonna have to wait for ages as well , as they try to find a ''loophole '' in their golf betting rules or make a new one so that they not pay this bet and void it instead . Cant think of anything else.
For time being , ORBIT's golf betting rules are pretty clear as shown in the screenshot. ( My bet was placed 3 days prior to the start of the tournament )
So, safe to assume that out of Betfair ------> Orbit -------> BIA, the fault lies solely with either Orbit or BIA.
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Orbit rolls down the cliff lately. If your account is referred by arbusers, send me a PM mentioning the account email and lets see what is there.
Other than that, I would appreciate that you guys start a new thread when reporting a new case. You are not helping the OP.
Re: Orbit account suspended
ProHat wrote: ↑Tue Feb 06, 2024 1:35 pmHi all ,
yesterday I had my ORBIT account suspended as well. The reason ? I had a winner ( 8K profit) in Pebble Beach golf tournament . For those that are not aware , it is a very prestigious PGA tour tournament with elite golf players . 19 out of top 20 golf players in world rankings participated in this tournament. Wyndham Clark , the winner , number 6 currently.
So , what's the '' catch '' in this case ? Well I can only make assumptions here but an ''abnormal '' incident took place in this tournament.
Due to bad weather conditions the 4th and final round of this tournament never took place as it was supposed to be in sunday. It was decided to be postponed for Monday morning ( official announcement link here : https://twitter.com/PGATOUR/status/1754328112551096690 ) .
Monday came and same bad weather conditions remained. So PGA tour decided that no more golf would be played and therefore according to the pga tour regulations the winner would be the golfer that was in lead at the end of round 3 ( official announcement link here : https://twitter.com/PGATOUR/status/1754328110491639944 ).
So every bookie that I am aware of honored the winner bets and paid normally for Wyndham Clark as tournament winner , including ORBIT .
Next day I try to place some bets and I get the message that my account has been suspended. I immediately contacted betinasia support and this is what I got back
''
Thank you for reaching out to BetInAsia
Please be well informed that your Orbit Exchange account is temporarily disabled due to certain golf markets being checked for legitimacy. This is a regular procedure led by the respective bookie, so rest assured that once we receive an update on this matter we will reach out to you immediately.
We truly appreciate your cooperation and understanding throughout the whole process. We are at your disposal if you have any other questions or concerns.
Kind regards ''
As I am aware of ORBIT's recent shady (to say the least) tactics throughout this topic , I replied back that this is an official pga tour regulation when such circumstances arise ,that this is a very prestigious golf tournament etc . etc. and I got back this
''
Thank you for your reply.
We kindly ask you to take into consideration that a subject of review by the related department is the event itself and not your betting activity. Therefore, you should not have any worries regarding your Orbit Exchange account.
As notified in the previous correspondence, we will contact you immediately once the check-up comes to an end. Until then, we are counting on your prompt patience.
Thank you for your cooperation so far.
Kind regards ''
So here I am now with my account suspended , waiting for the ''check-up '' to complete .
Judging from other members' cases , I guess I am gonna have to wait for ages as well , as they try to find a ''loophole '' in their golf betting rules or make a new one so that they not pay this bet and void it instead . Cant think of anything else.
For time being , ORBIT's golf betting rules are pretty clear as shown in the screenshot. ( My bet was placed 3 days prior to the start of the tournament )
Orbit rolls down the cliff lately. If your account is referred by arbusers, send me a PM mentioning the account email and lets see what is there.
Other than that, I would appreciate that you guys start a new thread when reporting a new case. You are not helping the OP.
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Re: Orbit account suspended
We are watching closely both cases and we are in contact with both players and BIA.
I believe Orbit is damaging itself.
Do you guys know if this Cricket bet is correctly graded in Betfair?
I believe Orbit is damaging itself.
Do you guys know if this Cricket bet is correctly graded in Betfair?
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Re: Orbit account suspended
Good morning, today six months but there is news this time.
Now I know that my account is under investigation regarding my bet on ATP Toronto 2023 / Daniel v Raonic / Set 1 - Correct Score.
So, yesterday I received the news that the funds regarding this will remain confiscated and my account suspended until the end of the investigation....
The rest of the funds were instead released and placed in my BIA wallet.
Today I know two more things, BIA has always worked on my behalf and has done everything possible within its jurisdiction to assist me and resolve this matter.
The second most beautiful and important thing I know is that here is Mr Arbuser, a Man who decides to put people before business, "let's protect peoples first who cares". I am and we must all be extremely proud of this.
Thanks always
Now I know that my account is under investigation regarding my bet on ATP Toronto 2023 / Daniel v Raonic / Set 1 - Correct Score.
So, yesterday I received the news that the funds regarding this will remain confiscated and my account suspended until the end of the investigation....
The rest of the funds were instead released and placed in my BIA wallet.
Today I know two more things, BIA has always worked on my behalf and has done everything possible within its jurisdiction to assist me and resolve this matter.
The second most beautiful and important thing I know is that here is Mr Arbuser, a Man who decides to put people before business, "let's protect peoples first who cares". I am and we must all be extremely proud of this.
Thanks always
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Re: Orbit account suspended
does it mean they are actually investigating something and not just try to steal your money and trying to scam you?pkpunter wrote: ↑Sat Feb 10, 2024 10:11 amGood morning, today six months but there is news this time.
Now I know that my account is under investigation regarding my bet on ATP Toronto 2023 / Daniel v Raonic / Set 1 - Correct Score.
So, yesterday I received the news that the funds regarding this will remain confiscated and my account suspended until the end of the investigation....
The rest of the funds were instead released and placed in my BIA wallet.
Today I know two more things, BIA has always worked on my behalf and has done everything possible within its jurisdiction to assist me and resolve this matter.
The second most beautiful and important thing I know is that here is Mr Arbuser, a Man who decides to put people before business, "let's protect peoples first who cares". I am and we must all be extremely proud of this.
Thanks always
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Re: Orbit account suspended
certainly in this last post I limited myself to writing the events, I left out personal impressions, I leave everyone with their own... I imagine they are not far from mine and everyone else's.
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