Arbusers

voodoo wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 05, 2023 6:11 pm

pkpunter, i guess these bets were prematch bets?

Yes Mate only pre match bets on tennis first set correct score.

But now we are talking about this... but let's be understood, I have done many other operations on practically all sports, I repeat I used the orbit account only for pure arbitrage betting, I do many other things luckily , but specifically the orbit account is always practiced served only for Arbs.

In fact, as you have seen in a previous post, overall the account is at a loss apart from these c.s. 1 set pipers

Now if I have a customer who leaves me a total of 17k in three months and pays and plays regular even if he puts me in difficulty on a certain market, I invite him to dinner, surely I don't tell him that he can no longer bet or that the money he won for once are blocked.

I err ? In a real world clearly .... here now it seems to me that we are at the movies

Man, what is going on here is pure madness. In real world where people respect law rules, anyone who accuse you of breaking them needs to provide evidences. What is going on here is people asking you questions, expecting you to prove you didint do anything wrong which is wrong. If Orbit accuse you of T&C breach they HAVE to provide evidences. Betting bussines gone wrong way, now they hide their pure theft (confiscating funds) behind "oh, we cant provide evidences so future cheaters wont know how to take advantage of our weaknesses). Pure bullshit it is and should not be tolerated at all. Same should not be tolerated forum's attitude ASSUMING you done anything wrong before any evidences are provided.

As a person with huge experience in betting industry, and as someone who got decent experience with Orbit Im pretty sure they didnt like you having edge at some point, promissing edge so they decided to cut you off. Nothing else. Now looking for excuse to freeze account for any dumb reason. The fact is avoiding to provide customer any evidence for such long time is absolutely disgusting and should not be tolerated anymore as its spoiling this bussines for good.

Very strange.
If I were you and I was thinking that these bets are the problem, I would send them my bets on soft books and the historical odds of the same outcome of other books (if u can find them). Then they cannot accuse u for fund passing or sth else.

They don't accuse me of anything, for this I don't know what I have to try to defend myself and from what ....

I am always available and I have nothing to hide, I am here and I speak openly .... the others ?

Grant wrote: ↑

Tue Sep 05, 2023 7:48 pm

Man, what is going on here is pure madness. In real world where people respect law rules, anyone who accuse you of breaking them needs to provide evidences. What is going on here is people asking you questions, expecting you to prove you didint do anything wrong which is wrong. If Orbit accuse you of T&C breach they HAVE to provide evidences. Betting bussines gone wrong way, now they hide their pure theft (confiscating funds) behind "oh, we cant provide evidences so future cheaters wont know how to take advantage of our weaknesses). Pure bullshit it is and should not be tolerated at all. Same should not be tolerated forum's attitude ASSUMING you done anything wrong before any evidences are provided.

As a person with huge experience in betting industry, and as someone who got decent experience with Orbit Im pretty sure they didnt like you having edge at some point, promissing edge so they decided to cut you off. Nothing else. Now looking for excuse to freeze account for any dumb reason. The fact is avoiding to provide customer any evidence for such long time is absolutely disgusting and should not be tolerated anymore as its spoiling this bussines for good.

Hi Man, thanks for your intervention and for your support

You seem to know well what the core of the question is here

It would be appreciated if orbit would state something about this in this forum for this situation. it would be a consolidation for them to express themselves and not leave the customer without explanations

I have seen 100s of cases and my experience tells me to never take a position after hearing only one side.
But other than that, it seems to me that we are in front of a DDD case. The acronym stands for Delay, Discourage, Don't Inform. I do not recall Orbit being present in our forum and commenting on member's posts.

arbusers wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 08, 2023 9:46 am

I have seen 100s of cases and my experience tells me to never take a position after hearing only one side.
But other than that, it seems to me that we are in front of a DDD case. The acronym stands for Delay, Discourage, Don't Inform. I do not recall Orbit being present in our forum and commenting on member's posts.

Thank you for your intervention Mr Arbuser, what you say is absolutely correct.

Generally in life not just in this episode.

But how can you listen to both sides when one communicates absolutely nothing?

Not privately not publicly.

And perhaps they should be more responsible for justifying the action they took than me. I am wrong ?

No arguments with you Mr Arbusers of course , indeed thanks for your help .

Tomorrow will be exactly one month (of zero communications)

You will have a post from me. Whose action is being taken.

I don't believe from the institution that is imposing the action that it would instead be much more normal.

As Dear Grant said, if you are imposing coercion on me you should also tell me in a transparent manner why you are doing it and what you accuse me of.

May I ask what amount is frozen on your account?

Tennislove95 wrote: ↑

Sat Sep 09, 2023 8:31 am

May I ask what amount is frozen on your account?

A lot, I think from anyone's point of view, I don't think it's important to talk about figures here, nor that your question is very sensible or productive, as certain figures could be a lot for some and nothing for others, if you've read the post well , you understood what my expositions were and you can understand roughly what we are talking about, but you see, that's not the point.

Now it has become more a question of principle than of money, although these are important and must be respected when earned with hard, correct and transparent work.

However at 10-9 (tomorrow or in an hour here) it will be exactly one month. I will gladly give you a documented update of the latest correspondence between me and Bia (the only ones I can talk to... and who in any case continue to answer my questions immediately, and for this I thank them)

At least that everyone here can have the situation as clear as possible, for the little that is in my ability to do.

A month today. Last update . My email, Bia answer, immediate as always. And I repeat again, I think and I hope they are with me in all this.
////////////////////////////////////////////////// //////////////////

Hello, Good Evening.

A month has passed since the beginning of this unpleaster affair ...

Were We Able To Get Some More Updates for Us?

At Least Something Compared to the Nothing Seen So Far, Regarding Motivations, Timing, Requests, etc .... etc ...?

Anything That Could Make the Situation At Least A Little More Certain and Transparent?

Thank you for your assistance. Best Regards.

////////////////////////////////////////////////// ////////////////////////////////////////////////// ///////////////////// Their

Hello D.....,

Thank you for your email.

UNFORTUNATELY, There is Still No Update from the Related Department. We Truly Undersand That Your Funds and Time are very Valuable. The Desire to Receive Feedback is the Same on Both Sides, Yours and Ours, and rest assured that as Don As We Have Any Information, You will be immediate notified by email.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR UNDERSANDING AND PATIENS SO FAR AND IF YOU HAVE ANY Other Questions or Concerns, please let us know.
Kind Regards,

Hello @pkpunter,

We would like to note here again that upon reviewing your trades on the exchange, it was Orbit Exchange that made the decision about suspending the account and so we need to wait for the investigation to be finalized.

It's important to point out that your account manager from our team was in fact in direct communication with you, as our respected long standing customer.
Your Orbit account has to remain suspended while the investigation is ongoing. Our partner does have a basis on which the investigation was opened on, and once that is concluded, more information will be shared with you.

We thank you for your understanding and patience.

BetInAsia wrote: ↑

Mon Sep 11, 2023 1:14 pm

Hello @pkpunter,

We would like to note here again that upon reviewing your trades on the exchange, it was Orbit Exchange that made the decision about suspending the account and so we need to wait for the investigation to be finalized.

It's important to point out that your account manager from our team was in fact in direct communication with you, as our respected long standing customer.
Your Orbit account has to remain suspended while the investigation is ongoing. Our partner does have a basis on which the investigation was opened on, and once that is concluded, more information will be shared with you.

We thank you for your understanding and patience.

Hello, good evening ,

Thanks for your intervention here, as I wrote in previous posts, nothing to reproach with BIA, indeed I thank you for a favorable treatment towards me in certain circumstances. In fact, I have always defended you despite my state of uncertainty and frustration.

What is fundamentally at the center of the issue here and which I don't understand well, is from my point of view an excessive power of Orbit both towards me and towards you, that is, suspending an account without providing to me but above all to you, motivations, timing and updates.

Best regards

Orbit had 1:1 exposure on your bets?

I honestly don't know and I don't care much, there is certainly a little more liquidity than on the original bf