congratulations that you got paid your money!! but the thing is can you still making bets via PT or any other broker and you still welcome in ps3838 aka pinnacle or they totally banned you from every broker and you are not welcome to make bets in pinnacle or ps3838 anymore forever? it will be important to know this so we can know if pinnacle is limiting a winner player even via broker or what..kapetan1122 wrote:Why is it hard to you to accept that someone can beat pinni in fair game?dealer wins wrote: Nice to see this resolved to everyone's satisfaction.
There are ways to beat Pinnacle or at least manipulate their lines, and even the old Pinnacle would quickly lock accounts if they suspected that.
Example: Years ago before I understood that if the risk/win amount limit on a line was 100, and the odds 1.1 you could bet £1000 to win £100, I remember sending in £100 after £100 bet, only for the account to be locked for 3 weeks and they asking me for a detailed explanation of my betting intention. After they finally realised I wasn't up to no good, they unlocked it.
Im guessing something like that has happened here, but they now want to refuse any more business from the OP, which is a little bit harder via agents hence Pinnacle made it very clear to PT they must not offer him an account.
This is second time you make assumptions that i did something shady or manipulate lines in any way, if this was the case PT and pinni will come out with proofs and i would not get my money.
Please check my bets that i put in attachment and see closing odds and you ll see that i just took closing odds( in meantime i never bet or tried to affect on odds before so i have advantage on closing odds) at pinnacle and beat them fair and squaire.
I will also tell you that pinnacle dont understand some basic things regarding tennis odds and what factors they should take, even bet365 get it after some time and fix some things but pinni still didnt do it, and thing is that i am not fighting pinni here, their opening lines are somethimes a such big joke,they made good model to make people and money coming in to shape their final odds but my models are based on few factors not only public opinions and money put on some matchs/lines.
People should understand that statistic is going to beat money in long term and that is it.
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congratulations that you got paid your money!! but the thing is can you still making bets via PT or any other broker and you still welcome in ps3838 aka pinnacle or they totally banned you from every broker and you are not welcome to make bets in pinnacle or ps3838 anymore forever? it will be important to know this so we can know if pinnacle is limiting a winner player even via broker or what..
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I think i am done with pinnacle,PT was my last broker that i used( 4th one,end every ps3838 acc is suspended for betting) and my original pinni acc is limited for 2 years or more on prematch betting so this mean that pinni dont want me to bet on lines where i can beat them but again they welcome me to lose money on live betting untill i maybe find something to beat them there and start winning and than i will be out for good,
congratulations that you got paid your money!! but the thing is can you still making bets via PT or any other broker and you still welcome in ps3838 aka pinnacle or they totally banned you from every broker and you are not welcome to make bets in pinnacle or ps3838 anymore forever? it will be important to know this so we can know if pinnacle is limiting a winner player even via broker or what..
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I think i am done with pinnacle,PT was my last broker that i used( 4th one,end every ps3838 acc is suspended for betting) and my original pinni acc is limited for 2 years or more on prematch betting so this mean that pinni dont want me to bet on lines where i can beat them but again they welcome me to lose money on live betting untill i maybe find something to beat them there and start winning and than i will be out for good,
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It is just costly for them to change their marketing slogans.
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I wonder why people keep asking the obvious. Pinnacle is no longer accepting winners. They might accept those who contribute to their liquidity, but if you beat them hard (like Kapetan did) you will have your accounts limited.kapetan1122 wrote: I think i am done with pinnacle,PT was my last broker that i used( 4th one,end every ps3838 acc is suspended for betting) and my original pinni acc is limited for 2 years or more on prematch betting so this mean that pinni dont want me to bet on lines where i can beat them but again they welcome me to lose money on live betting untill i maybe find something to beat them there and start winning and than i will be out for good,
It is just costly for them to change their marketing slogans.
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I am not surprised by Pinnacle. Ever since Sbobet and other Asians stopped offering decent services, a lot of smart action went to Pinnacle. This action might be smarter than Pinnacle.
By refusing to evolve and learn from the market Pinnacle guarantees that will offer many cases like Kapetan's in the future. Get your popcorn and simply wait.
Pinnacle has all these theoreticians of gambling in their blog and Twitter. I am sure most of these writers never placed a bet in a shop or online.
By refusing to evolve and learn from the market Pinnacle guarantees that will offer many cases like Kapetan's in the future. Get your popcorn and simply wait.
Pinnacle has all these theoreticians of gambling in their blog and Twitter. I am sure most of these writers never placed a bet in a shop or online.
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A little off topic but in connection with the publication of kapetan1122.kapetan1122, you are considering taking a private account in Pinnacle.There are merchants around who offer such accounts.And every time Pinnacle stops your activity you get a new account.Most of us do just that with other so-called "soft" bookmakers.What, then, is the obstacle to doing this with the so-called "sharps"?Although the question of whether there are still "sharp" bookmakers is very controversial to date.
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It seems that pinnacle reaction to multiaccounting is more aggressive than softs. They are very good at profiling players so they catch you after a few bets. And their reaction is very slow payout to implant fear on playing there again like in kapetan1122 case.leonbet wrote: A little off topic but in connection with the publication of kapetan1122.kapetan1122, you are considering taking a private account in Pinnacle.There are merchants around who offer such accounts.And every time Pinnacle stops your activity you get a new account.Most of us do just that with other so-called "soft" bookmakers.What, then, is the obstacle to doing this with the so-called "sharps"?Although the question of whether there are still "sharp" bookmakers is very controversial to date.
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A lot of smart action went from sbobet to Pinnacle. This resulted on pinnacle being more agressive on limiting players.
The only good thing is that pinnacle is now sharper than ever, and you can be sure if you beat their closing lines you will profit
The only good thing is that pinnacle is now sharper than ever, and you can be sure if you beat their closing lines you will profit
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Maybe you're both right.I just gave my two cents in an attempt to help kapetan1122.
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I dont know if there will be some problems and against some terms here if you put name of such service because we cent send PM but i would like to check and see what are my options for near future.
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As a tennis season stoped i have taken some time off and i need to think what to do in near future, thank you for your info and maybe i will be looking for such service, i used all brokers here because i knew they are reliable because Arbuser offer their services here, for me most important thing is that service is reliable and will pay in the end,i dont want to deposit my money,spend 1-2 month betting and in the end lose my hard earned money and waste my precious time.Wolfie wrote:It seems that pinnacle reaction to multiaccounting is more aggressive than softs. They are very good at profiling players so they catch you after a few bets. And their reaction is very slow payout to implant fear on playing there again like in kapetan1122 case.leonbet wrote: A little off topic but in connection with the publication of kapetan1122.kapetan1122, you are considering taking a private account in Pinnacle.There are merchants around who offer such accounts.And every time Pinnacle stops your activity you get a new account.Most of us do just that with other so-called "soft" bookmakers.What, then, is the obstacle to doing this with the so-called "sharps"?Although the question of whether there are still "sharp" bookmakers is very controversial to date.
I dont know if there will be some problems and against some terms here if you put name of such service because we cent send PM but i would like to check and see what are my options for near future.
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Hello. I wonder if you somehow solved the problem with tennis or stopped betting?
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I would just say that i am still hanging on,not to the extend like before but i still place some bets from time to time with lower volume and making my exposure to pinni is minimum as i can.supplier_of_happiness wrote: Hello. I wonder if you somehow solved the problem with tennis or stopped betting?
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Do you still place prematch bets on tennis on pinny or not? Didn't understand if you are just betting or prematch betting then trade out on the exchange or something similar...
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