Hello,
I'm new around here and wanted to share some info which might be useful.
From an interest in hacking to defensive strategies, web scraping, and the intricate world of fingerprinting, anti-bot measures, and a plethora of trackers, we find ourselves in an era where technology is harnessed to its fullest to monitor users. In these times, privacy seems like a myth, and those attempting to dodge tracking only end up highlighting their uniqueness.
But how does this connect to smart betting? Imagine you're using a new, promising account for arbitrage betting, dreaming of its potential to become a golden goose. Yet, within days, you notice your account is restricted. This likely because bookies track your digital fingerprints continuously by collecting your browser activity. They scrutinize simple indicators such as whether you're connecting from a new IP address, whether your browser is linked to a mobile or a data center IP, and whether you're engaging in arbitrage. The likelihood of raising red flags is substantial. However, it's not just about IP addresses. Bookies can also discern the type of hardware you use, your timezone, browser type, installed fonts, screen resolution, color depth, language settings, and numerous other metrics your browser reveals.
And off course, each bookmaker implements different risk management strategies, making it challenging to precisely know what criteria they use to identify smart bettors. Just also keep in mind that the majority of users now place bets through mobile phones.
This only scratched the surface. Even looking at the basics, like TCP connection, from the TCP handshake you can figure out what operating system someone is using. This shows how detailed online tracking can go.
Red Flag Indicators:
- Use of the same IP address across multiple accounts
- Utilization of data center proxies
- Unlogical pairing of mobile proxies with desktop browsers
- Use of a different language from the country of operation, except for English
- Identical fingerprints that combine cookies, hardware, OS versions, etc.
The wonderful world of web tracking
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Hello Sportbetarber1337,
The fact is that in recent years the number of people who selflessly share useful and educational information on forums has decreased.
This is why your posts should be most welcomed by a critical mass of people seeking education and development. Later, some of these people will become masters in some fields and remember the help they received when they were rookies and in return will share some valuable suggestions in the forums and thus the Circle of Knowledge will touch everyone... hypothetically. “Knowledge is power. The real test of knowledge is not whether it is true but whether it empowers us. Scientists usually assume that no theory is 100% correct. Truth, consequently, is a poor test for knowledge. The real test is utility. A theory that enables us to do new things constitutes knowledge.” - Sir Francis Bacon, 1597.
Imagine there is a critical mass of people who think the Forums' mission is to bring us genuine Knowledge and sharing of valuable opinions. There were a lot of such specialized web resources in the past when the general audience level was very high, far, far above the "Daily Mail" / "The Sun" / "The News of the World" - similar.
Re: The wonderful world of web tracking
sportbetarber1337 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:52 pmHello,
I'm new around here and wanted to share some info which might be useful.
...
Hello Sportbetarber1337,
The fact is that in recent years the number of people who selflessly share useful and educational information on forums has decreased.
This is why your posts should be most welcomed by a critical mass of people seeking education and development. Later, some of these people will become masters in some fields and remember the help they received when they were rookies and in return will share some valuable suggestions in the forums and thus the Circle of Knowledge will touch everyone... hypothetically. “Knowledge is power. The real test of knowledge is not whether it is true but whether it empowers us. Scientists usually assume that no theory is 100% correct. Truth, consequently, is a poor test for knowledge. The real test is utility. A theory that enables us to do new things constitutes knowledge.” - Sir Francis Bacon, 1597.
Imagine there is a critical mass of people who think the Forums' mission is to bring us genuine Knowledge and sharing of valuable opinions. There were a lot of such specialized web resources in the past when the general audience level was very high, far, far above the "Daily Mail" / "The Sun" / "The News of the World" - similar.
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I'm repeating, this is my POV and my experience, and I don't want to say that this is correct or bad way of thinking.
I hope this post won't make some people offended.
Re: The wonderful world of web tracking
Hey brother, I'm also in cyber security for few years and I know this all. I will explain my point of view on everything together, security measures, arbitrage and bookies. The thing is that people want everything "served on the silver plate". After all no one will respect You, and You are actually feeding them all from your own plate leaving You with nothing at the end. If You think You can feed yourself and all of them too, then that's awesome, but going that way will make this field (smart betting) even more saturated. The people You help will just wait to find something to, in other words, throw dirt on You. If You don't make any effort there's basically no value, You are not deserving it, and if You decide to put effort in it don't forget to respect yourself bro. Let them find by their self valuable information's while You answering / responding on some less valuable information people ask for.sportbetarber1337 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:52 pmHello,
I'm new around here and wanted to share some info which might be useful.
From an interest in hacking to defensive strategies, web scraping, and the intricate world of fingerprinting, anti-bot measures, and a plethora of trackers, we find ourselves in an era where technology is harnessed to its fullest to monitor users. In these times, privacy seems like a myth, and those attempting to dodge tracking only end up highlighting their uniqueness.
But how does this connect to smart betting? Imagine you're using a new, promising account for arbitrage betting, dreaming of its potential to become a golden goose. Yet, within days, you notice your account is restricted. This likely because bookies track your digital fingerprints continuously by collecting your browser activity. They scrutinize simple indicators such as whether you're connecting from a new IP address, whether your browser is linked to a mobile or a data center IP, and whether you're engaging in arbitrage. The likelihood of raising red flags is substantial. However, it's not just about IP addresses. Bookies can also discern the type of hardware you use, your timezone, browser type, installed fonts, screen resolution, color depth, language settings, and numerous other metrics your browser reveals.
And off course, each bookmaker implements different risk management strategies, making it challenging to precisely know what criteria they use to identify smart bettors. Just also keep in mind that the majority of users now place bets through mobile phones.
This only scratched the surface. Even looking at the basics, like TCP connection, from the TCP handshake you can figure out what operating system someone is using. This shows how detailed online tracking can go.
Red Flag Indicators:
- Use of the same IP address across multiple accounts
- Utilization of data center proxies
- Unlogical pairing of mobile proxies with desktop browsers
- Use of a different language from the country of operation, except for English
- Identical fingerprints that combine cookies, hardware, OS versions, etc.
I'm repeating, this is my POV and my experience, and I don't want to say that this is correct or bad way of thinking.
I hope this post won't make some people offended.
When You know how it works then You should know how to break it. 
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Re: The wonderful world of web tracking
No one is offended and everyone is entitled for his/her opinions.
As a side note. I request that you keep this thread within what is considered ''legal frames'' to protect the forum and your selves, as I understand some sensitive issues might be touched.
Thank you.
As a side note. I request that you keep this thread within what is considered ''legal frames'' to protect the forum and your selves, as I understand some sensitive issues might be touched.
Thank you.
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Re: The wonderful world of web tracking
This is always a fascinating topic.
I think you're giving your average soft bookie too much credit than they actually deserve on this topic (except bet365, they are the best by far on this). On my experience a decent amount of bookies only do IP tracking (check if it belongs to a datacenter or VPN) and call it a day.
I observe in the comments some secrecy or resilience to share more about this topic. I do not mind sharing my methodology:
For every new "client":
- I use a fresh virtual machine with a new instance of windows on it (generating new MAC addresses for any network adapter)
- I use a portable router with a sim on it to provide me internet with a clean IP
Of course, this method has some caveats: probably some of the bookies can detect that I am using a desktop version with a mobile IP, or that I am using a VM. But I find it being the sweet spot between operation efficiency and privacy.
Could I just buy different android phones and place the bets through them? Wouldn't that be perfect? Most definitely yes, but I rather prefer to operate in the desktop version with a mouse and several screens. In our world every second counts in order to snatch the best odds.
I hope my post entices more users to share about this topic
I think you're giving your average soft bookie too much credit than they actually deserve on this topic (except bet365, they are the best by far on this). On my experience a decent amount of bookies only do IP tracking (check if it belongs to a datacenter or VPN) and call it a day.
I observe in the comments some secrecy or resilience to share more about this topic. I do not mind sharing my methodology:
For every new "client":
- I use a fresh virtual machine with a new instance of windows on it (generating new MAC addresses for any network adapter)
- I use a portable router with a sim on it to provide me internet with a clean IP
Of course, this method has some caveats: probably some of the bookies can detect that I am using a desktop version with a mobile IP, or that I am using a VM. But I find it being the sweet spot between operation efficiency and privacy.
Could I just buy different android phones and place the bets through them? Wouldn't that be perfect? Most definitely yes, but I rather prefer to operate in the desktop version with a mouse and several screens. In our world every second counts in order to snatch the best odds.
I hope my post entices more users to share about this topic
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Re: The wonderful world of web tracking
this info was the gold dust between 2015-2020 but now its not really a piece of the puzzle which matters too much in terms of its value. it would seaperate the elite from those who would eventually fall by the wayside
there are much bigger barriers to entry for a newbie who would become a rival to any smart betting operation still going these days and even if they do crack they will soon realise the juice wasnt worth the squeeze
there are much bigger barriers to entry for a newbie who would become a rival to any smart betting operation still going these days and even if they do crack they will soon realise the juice wasnt worth the squeeze
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Regarding the use of a Virtual Machine, this can also be easily detected by fingerprinting the GPU unless you've made some adjustments. I see you are also generating a MAC address and wonder why, because the MAC address sits in layers 1-2 of the OSI model. However, I have to say, a Virtual Machine seems to be a good solution.
Re: The wonderful world of web tracking
You are probably right in giving the average bookie too much credit. I've noticed some of the bookies are in a deep winter sleep.polema wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 10:07 amThis is always a fascinating topic.
I think you're giving your average soft bookie too much credit than they actually deserve on this topic (except bet365, they are the best by far on this). On my experience a decent amount of bookies only do IP tracking (check if it belongs to a datacenter or VPN) and call it a day.
I observe in the comments some secrecy or resilience to share more about this topic. I do not mind sharing my methodology:
For every new "client":
- I use a fresh virtual machine with a new instance of windows on it (generating new MAC addresses for any network adapter)
- I use a portable router with a sim on it to provide me internet with a clean IP
Of course, this method has some caveats: probably some of the bookies can detect that I am using a desktop version with a mobile IP, or that I am using a VM. But I find it being the sweet spot between operation efficiency and privacy.
Could I just buy different android phones and place the bets through them? Wouldn't that be perfect? Most definitely yes, but I rather prefer to operate in the desktop version with a mouse and several screens. In our world every second counts in order to snatch the best odds.
I hope my post entices more users to share about this topic
Regarding the use of a Virtual Machine, this can also be easily detected by fingerprinting the GPU unless you've made some adjustments. I see you are also generating a MAC address and wonder why, because the MAC address sits in layers 1-2 of the OSI model. However, I have to say, a Virtual Machine seems to be a good solution.
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Re: The wonderful world of web tracking
While I understand your perspective, I'm fully aware of what I'm sharing, and I don't mind doing so. How people choose to use it is entirely up to them, and I don't expect anything in return. The essence of a forum is to share and assist one another. If this can benefit some smart bettors, I'm happy for them. However, this doesn't imply that I'll divulge all the information I possess. What I've shared is merely the tip of the iceberg.Mystic wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2024 5:36 amHey brother, I'm also in cyber security for few years and I know this all. I will explain my point of view on everything together, security measures, arbitrage and bookies. The thing is that people want everything "served on the silver plate". After all no one will respect You, and You are actually feeding them all from your own plate leaving You with nothing at the end. If You think You can feed yourself and all of them too, then that's awesome, but going that way will make this field (smart betting) even more saturated. The people You help will just wait to find something to, in other words, throw dirt on You. If You don't make any effort there's basically no value, You are not deserving it, and if You decide to put effort in it don't forget to respect yourself bro. Let them find by their self valuable information's while You answering / responding on some less valuable information people ask for.sportbetarber1337 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:52 pmHello,
I'm new around here and wanted to share some info which might be useful.
From an interest in hacking to defensive strategies, web scraping, and the intricate world of fingerprinting, anti-bot measures, and a plethora of trackers, we find ourselves in an era where technology is harnessed to its fullest to monitor users. In these times, privacy seems like a myth, and those attempting to dodge tracking only end up highlighting their uniqueness.
But how does this connect to smart betting? Imagine you're using a new, promising account for arbitrage betting, dreaming of its potential to become a golden goose. Yet, within days, you notice your account is restricted. This likely because bookies track your digital fingerprints continuously by collecting your browser activity. They scrutinize simple indicators such as whether you're connecting from a new IP address, whether your browser is linked to a mobile or a data center IP, and whether you're engaging in arbitrage. The likelihood of raising red flags is substantial. However, it's not just about IP addresses. Bookies can also discern the type of hardware you use, your timezone, browser type, installed fonts, screen resolution, color depth, language settings, and numerous other metrics your browser reveals.
And off course, each bookmaker implements different risk management strategies, making it challenging to precisely know what criteria they use to identify smart bettors. Just also keep in mind that the majority of users now place bets through mobile phones.
This only scratched the surface. Even looking at the basics, like TCP connection, from the TCP handshake you can figure out what operating system someone is using. This shows how detailed online tracking can go.
Red Flag Indicators:
- Use of the same IP address across multiple accounts
- Utilization of data center proxies
- Unlogical pairing of mobile proxies with desktop browsers
- Use of a different language from the country of operation, except for English
- Identical fingerprints that combine cookies, hardware, OS versions, etc.
I'm repeating, this is my POV and my experience, and I don't want to say that this is correct or bad way of thinking.
I hope this post won't make some people offended.
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