Arbusers

Just wanted to share my pain with you..

What's the biggest challenge in life? Well, probably adepting yourself (and your business) to new conditions. "Change" is a dangerous and an unpleasant word sometimes..

The only thing that does not change is change itself. Everything changes. Sometimes good, sometimes bad. Well, I'm afraid usually bad..

Time to time, I talked to old arbers. These guys were arbing in late-90's! Well, many say the same thing, arbing was much easier (and profitable) in the past. It's still possible to make profit, that's for sure, but not easy like old days. Books limit you in a blink of eye, generous bonus offers no longer exists, greedy governments banning online betting (and Betfair) one by one and so on..



I received some sad news few days ago..

Neteller sent me a mail, Starting from 15 August; Members in Turkey won't be able to use Neteller in betting/gambling sites.

It means a dramatical decrease inprofits since only options left for us are Ukash and Bank Transfer. (There's Ecopayz too but Eco sucks)

Now, it will take ages to move the money. Arbing, Money Transfer was very easy and flexible with the help of e-wallets.

Both E-Wallets are out..Things are getting harder everyday..

I don't know how are conditions in your country, maybe worse, maybe better. But it's always a good thing to have a PLAN B. Future is always uncertain.

You must adapt yourself to new conditions in order to survive. That's what I will do.

Arbing without e-wallets..sounds hard I know. Profits will decrease without doubt! But still, I will do best I can.

I hope things are better in place you're living in. Still, I advise you to keep this on your mind: Future is always uncertain! Laws may change, governments may change, conditions may change. As an arber/trader, you must adapt yourself to the new enviroment and new conditions..in order to survive. Remember, Cockroaches survived but Dinosaurs didn't..



Thank you for sharing/listening my pain,
'Til Next Time,
Take care & See you!

I wish everyone a profitable arbing season!

I feel sorry, and I mean it Yngwie.

Adaption is surely key in all successful businesses, and as you seem to be a high roller, you will find a way for sure...expand bankroll as much as possible...leave money with bookies to save transactions, the obvious so to speak. You will grow with challenges, and you might find a way only few think about, who knows?

Good Luck!

There are at least 1 solution for every problem.

Yngwie, I currently do not use any e-wallets, and have not done since I started arbing, I would be happy to PM you with a tip or two if you think it will be helpful.

It can feel limiting at times, but it is pretty much all about money and odds management between accounts.

There are at least 1 solution for every problem.

...and if there´s no solution,you should have closer look to your problem.
It´s possible,that it is none.

For every closed door,you will get 2 that will open.

Living in UK? No way, I can't stand that sh*tty weather. I'm a sun addict, lol. (Seriously)

I'm a married man, a family man. I just (this month) bought a house here, formed a life here..and I love place I'm living in. I love being together with my friends and relatives here. Maybe I can plan a short-trip to UK in future but living there? No, thanks. I'm happy with my income at the moment, maybe my profits will decrease but that's okay.

Ah, Who knows what will happen in future? If conditions force me to move there, why not? Who knows, maybe I may consider moving to UK in future..but not for now

I wish everyone a profitable arbitrage season!

I'm a bit lost... arbing without e-wallets is quite complicated. I'm having some difficulties.
Someone can give me some tips? And by the way, you think that will begin to be more bookmakers who don't allow deposits with Skrill and Neteller?

Yngwie/Sawyer wrote:
Remember, Cockroaches survived but Dinosaurs didn't..

So you share the same opinion of yourself (and us) with the bookmakers? 

Just stirring...

I feel for you. Such arbitrary changes are anoying in life, especially when imposed by dumb asses. I have a feeling you'll do ok though. I've only been using e-wallets for about a 1/3 of my accounts mainly self imposed as I'm not keen on skrill due to a bad previous experience and many aussie bookies do not care for neteller. Sucks that net+ card can't be used for gambling too.

Could be worse... such as having to use matchbook for live trading because betfair you have to call by phone due to local laws.

Another old article. August 2013, Wow!

Guys please do me a favor and stop bumping my 2 years ago articles, lol.



Looks like I was very depressed and worried those times about Neteller issue. But what happened? Things changed for BETTER. I used bank transfer and ukash and made even more profit then Neteller times. Hell, yeah!

lerllerdi wrote: I have a feeling you'll do ok though.

Your feeling is right. I did okay, very very okay

Things can only get better fellas..

Lol, I should start reading original post dates sigh.

Just bumped this thread again 

lerllerdi wrote: Lol, I should start reading original post dates sigh.

Just bumped this thread again 

No problem dude. I felt happy for reminding old days..

LOL, nice video on Howard Jones.