Value betting questions

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Value betting questions

Thu Feb 13, 2014 10:33 am

I think of starting value betting but i have some questions
1.Which bookies gives the truest odd:pinnacle.sbobet,betfair?
In my opinion betfair.
2.How much % should be the minimum arb so you can take the valubet?
In my opinion 3% maybe 4%
3.How should you adjust the stakes ?
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Re: Value betting questions

Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:24 pm

ArberPro wrote: I think of starting value betting but i have some questions
1.Which bookies gives the truest odd:pinnacle.sbobet,betfair?
In my opinion betfair.
2.How much % should be the minimum arb so you can take the valubet?
In my opinion 3% maybe 4%
3.How should you adjust the stakes ?
1. Iam taking best odds from that 3 bookmakers and than calculating value of odds
2. If you have for example over/under line 1.92/1.92 and you can get odds 2.1 its low surebet but very good value..
3. personally iam using flat stakes. It doesnt matter what stake you place becuase in long run you will get profit 5-10% from your stake, but if you have small bankroll you should look for some advices how to use your bank

Good luck, and keep on mind that some loses can happen but later profit will come :)
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Re: Value betting questions

Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:03 pm

ArberPro wrote: I think of starting value betting but i have some questions
1.Which bookies gives the truest odd:pinnacle.sbobet,betfair?
In my opinion betfair.
2.How much % should be the minimum arb so you can take the valubet?
In my opinion 3% maybe 4%
3.How should you adjust the stakes ?
1. It's Pinnacle of course. It's a fact, it's an universal answer. I may doubt law of gravity but not Pinnacle Lean. Good idea to consider asians too but only in soccer market.
2. This question has a subjective answer. Many arbers and value hunter probably will answer %2 or %3. My opinion is %3.
3. I'm a strong believer in flat staking but not in value betting. You must risk slightly less on lower odds since your chance to win is higher. You can't bet same stake on 1,50 and 2,20.

Finally, don't make value betting in tennis, lol.
Soccer and Basket okay, specially US Sports. GL!
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Re: Value betting questions

Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:02 pm

ArberPro wrote: I think of starting value betting but i have some questions
1.Which bookies gives the truest odd:pinnacle.sbobet,betfair?
In my opinion betfair.
2.How much % should be the minimum arb so you can take the valubet?
In my opinion 3% maybe 4%
3.How should you adjust the stakes ?
1.Pinnacle for any sport +asians in soccer
2.This depends on how much variance you can tolerate, the lower the % the more swings you will have. Even a 0% arb will have 2.5-3% yield, i personally go for 1.5%.
3.Using "to win amount" is the optimal strategy. I usually cover it on very low odds, so that i don't risk too much.
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Re: Value betting questions

Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:27 pm

For me,

1) Pinnacle is the best of course but also betfair, SBO or IBC to discover values in different markets not covered by Pinny
2) 1% is already a shot for me
3) Flat small stake and place the biggest amount of value bets that you can. I shoot everything between 1.25 and 10 when is a value, of course

I'm doing this for months and my ROI is 19%

good luck value bettors
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Re: Value betting questions

Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:59 pm

Probably you know it but wanted to say anyway. Don't consider Pinnacle Lean in low-volume markets. Pinnacle lean is not very efficient in these kind of leagues. GL!
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Re: Value betting questions

Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:10 am

ArberPro wrote: I think of starting value betting but i have some questions
1.Which bookies gives the truest odd:pinnacle.sbobet,betfair?
In my opinion betfair.
Definitely Pinnacle. Their overround is so small (2-3%) that they would go out of business if they didn't keep their prices in line. Betfair will give accurate odds but only for major events happening soon, otherwise the liquidity is too poor to make a proper judgement. I have no idea about SBObet.
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Re: Value betting questions

Fri Feb 14, 2014 6:19 pm

Yngwie/Sawyer wrote: Probably you know it but wanted to say anyway. Don't consider Pinnacle Lean in low-volume markets. Pinnacle lean is not very efficient in these kind of leagues. GL!
As I said, Pinnacle LEan is not very effective in low-volume markets but except CHINA league. Both soccer and basket. I rarely remember a lose in these leagues.
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Re: Value betting questions

Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:31 pm

In football is easy identify value, but how to identify value in other sports and with odds where sharp bookies are not involved (couting also Betfair)? For example Tennis Challengers:
Player A odd 3.2 bwin
Player B odd 1.6 unibet

How can i know who have correct odds?
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Re: Value betting questions

Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:39 pm

kustef wrote: In football is easy identify value, but how to identify value in other sports and with odds where sharp bookies are not involved (couting also Betfair)? For example Tennis Challengers:
Player A odd 3.2 bwin
Player B odd 1.6 unibet

How can i know who have correct odds?
Actually you answered the question yourself. You can't have a clear indication where is the value (if any) at sports without major liquidity. You need major sports to have a clear view, for example take pinnacle if you see a sport with lower than let's say 1000 (maybe less in some cases) limit per bet the odds are not that sharp to show you the "true" odds and you should ignore any "value" odd you see for betting purposes.
Don't speak for something you have no clue.
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Re: Value betting questions

Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:55 pm

raizzak wrote:
kustef wrote: In football is easy identify value, but how to identify value in other sports and with odds where sharp bookies are not involved (couting also Betfair)? For example Tennis Challengers:
Player A odd 3.2 bwin
Player B odd 1.6 unibet

How can i know who have correct odds?
Actually you answered the question yourself. You can't have a clear indication where is the value (if any) at sports without major liquidity. You need major sports to have a clear view, for example take pinnacle if you see a sport with lower than let's say 1000 (maybe less in some cases) limit per bet the odds are not that sharp to show you the "true" odds and you should ignore any "value" odd you see for betting purposes.
Than how to work with my tennis example? bet  both ?
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Re: Value betting questions

Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:00 pm

Compare the odds from other books  ;D
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Re: Value betting questions

Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:07 pm

For Tennis Challengers in my opinion the truest value is bet365 and after that unibet.
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Re: Value betting questions

Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:12 pm

kustef wrote:
raizzak wrote:
kustef wrote: In football is easy identify value, but how to identify value in other sports and with odds where sharp bookies are not involved (couting also Betfair)? For example Tennis Challengers:
Player A odd 3.2 bwin
Player B odd 1.6 unibet

How can i know who have correct odds?
Actually you answered the question yourself. You can't have a clear indication where is the value (if any) at sports without major liquidity. You need major sports to have a clear view, for example take pinnacle if you see a sport with lower than let's say 1000 (maybe less in some cases) limit per bet the odds are not that sharp to show you the "true" odds and you should ignore any "value" odd you see for betting purposes.
Than how to work with my tennis example? bet  both ?
arb or bet nothing
Don't speak for something you have no clue.

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