It’s known that on Orbit there's a position taking involved (maybe by agent) .
Does anyone know if this risk taking by agent is stable or can change?
If I ‘m right this means the agent loses money when a customer is consistently profitable.
So I wonder if winners are welcome or agents will look for ways to avoid them.
Any thoughts?
Are winners (at Orbit) welcome?
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Re: Are winners (at Orbit) welcome?
It depends on the agent. Every agent has a different approach. Let me comment a little bit:
When you see bigger liquidity in your Orbit account, that means that someone is betting against you. And that someone is most probably the agent that gave you this account. This means the agent profiled you and he expects that you will lose money in the long run, and thus the agent will profit from your loss.
However there is always another possibility. The agent gives you a normal Orbit account with no extra liquidity. They again profile you, and if they find out that you are a winner, based on mathematics, on information, or any other edge, they copy your bets and they place them again in Betfair or other outlets. This is why, some agents are welcoming winners. Some people who are long term winners, they negotiate with the agent to have bigger limits or bigger liquidity for their bets. The agents dont want to lose this kind of players and they satisfy the request, so they also keep the benefit to copy the bets.
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When you see bigger liquidity in your Orbit account, that means that someone is betting against you. And that someone is most probably the agent that gave you this account. This means the agent profiled you and he expects that you will lose money in the long run, and thus the agent will profit from your loss.
However there is always another possibility. The agent gives you a normal Orbit account with no extra liquidity. They again profile you, and if they find out that you are a winner, based on mathematics, on information, or any other edge, they copy your bets and they place them again in Betfair or other outlets. This is why, some agents are welcoming winners. Some people who are long term winners, they negotiate with the agent to have bigger limits or bigger liquidity for their bets. The agents dont want to lose this kind of players and they satisfy the request, so they also keep the benefit to copy the bets.
Our review on Orbit exchange can be found here: orbit-exchange-t6734/all
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Re: Are winners (at Orbit) welcome?
Thanks for the helpful information.
I've been using Orbit through BIA since July and I've won so far.
The risk my agent is taking is high, about 58%.
So until now, the math says that my agent has a loss from me.
In the future, if I keep winning, is it possible that the agent will either reduce the risk to my bets or give me a regular account with no extra liquidity?
I want to believe that agents will never unfairly accuse of fund passing someone who wins in order to avoid him.
I've been using Orbit through BIA since July and I've won so far.
The risk my agent is taking is high, about 58%.
So until now, the math says that my agent has a loss from me.
In the future, if I keep winning, is it possible that the agent will either reduce the risk to my bets or give me a regular account with no extra liquidity?
I want to believe that agents will never unfairly accuse of fund passing someone who wins in order to avoid him.
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its not the fund passing thing anymore. this kind of betting is already dead because people know the inherent risk of getting funds confiscated. there are more clever ways than fund passing already but you wont hear it from any agents nor will they hardly comment on such stories to not give a route to new people exploiting the system and creating more troubles for betfair white labels.
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Have a look here portal/compare-agents/
Re: Are winners (at Orbit) welcome?
From Brokers which are in arbusers you can choose between AsianConnect and BetInAsia.skyKris88 wrote: hi there, in which broker can i find Orbit account?
Have a look here portal/compare-agents/
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Have you got personal experience with some of them?Paidi wrote:From Brokers which are in arbusers you can choose between AsianConnect and BetInAsia.skyKris88 wrote: hi there, in which broker can i find Orbit account?
Have a look here portal/compare-agents/
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Fast deposits and withdrawals, very good customer support via mail and chat.
Re: Are winners (at Orbit) welcome?
Yes, I am using Orbit via BetInAsia without any problem until now.bauerelias854 wrote:Have you got personal experience with some of them?Paidi wrote:From Brokers which are in arbusers you can choose between AsianConnect and BetInAsia.skyKris88 wrote: hi there, in which broker can i find Orbit account?
Have a look here portal/compare-agents/
Fast deposits and withdrawals, very good customer support via mail and chat.
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THey dont do promotion, which sums up their market size
Re: Are winners (at Orbit) welcome?
IMO sportsmarket is always the best, not in Carucao, never delay payment.bauerelias854 wrote:Have you got personal experience with some of them?Paidi wrote:From Brokers which are in arbusers you can choose between AsianConnect and BetInAsia.skyKris88 wrote: hi there, in which broker can i find Orbit account?
Have a look here portal/compare-agents/
THey dont do promotion, which sums up their market size
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Why is it an advantage for SM that it's not licensed in Curacao?
Re: Are winners (at Orbit) welcome?
If Sportmarket offered Orbit it would certainly be a possible choice for me.hkbestrader wrote:IMO sportsmarket is always the best, not in Carucao, never delay payment.bauerelias854 wrote:Have you got personal experience with some of them?Paidi wrote: From Brokers which are in arbusers you can choose between AsianConnect and BetInAsia.
Have a look here portal/compare-agents/
THey dont do promotion, which sums up their market size
Why is it an advantage for SM that it's not licensed in Curacao?
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No, they don`t have Orbit, but the rest have. Yes, why not curacao license what is the difference?Paidi wrote:If Sportmarket offered Orbit it would certainly be a possible choice for me.hkbestrader wrote:IMO sportsmarket is always the best, not in Carucao, never delay payment.bauerelias854 wrote: Have you got personal experience with some of them?
THey dont do promotion, which sums up their market size
Why is it an advantage for SM that it's not licensed in Curacao?
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What does it change if they are licensed in Curacao or Isle of Man?hkbestrader wrote:IMO sportsmarket is always the best, not in Carucao, never delay payment.bauerelias854 wrote:Have you got personal experience with some of them?Paidi wrote: From Brokers which are in arbusers you can choose between AsianConnect and BetInAsia.
Have a look here portal/compare-agents/
THey dont do promotion, which sums up their market size